Companies with structured travel policies - which industry?
#16
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Norwich, UK
Programs: IHG Gold
Posts: 309
Currently, social housing - no need for flights at all. I do get plenty of UK hotel stays though.
Previously, I worked in technology. Policy was cheapest possible always, FR or U2 if possible (from STN, we were based near Cambridge). I did manage to get a KL flight to MUC via AMS once after I persuaded the beancounters it was still cheaper than Easyjet after the mileage and parking etc were included.
signol
Previously, I worked in technology. Policy was cheapest possible always, FR or U2 if possible (from STN, we were based near Cambridge). I did manage to get a KL flight to MUC via AMS once after I persuaded the beancounters it was still cheaper than Easyjet after the mileage and parking etc were included.
signol
#17
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Almost exactly equally distant from LCY, LGW and LHR.
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 115
Big "Known Name" European Media Company, at the senior professional (but non-managerial) level.
Trip < 5 hours: Y
5 < Trip < 8 hours: Y+ (if available), Y otherwise.
Trip > 8 hours: J
Travel policy is "erratic" though. Examples :-
0.) "Prefered Airline" is BA, but policy is also "book cheapest ticket". Nobody seems to really know what this means.
1.) Refused BA First even though it was cheaper than CW, LHR->SFO (on our own systems, not just the BA headline fair) as First is out-of-policy.
2.) Vendor conference in Miami. Y only as the conference (which is an excellent bit of professional development) was seen a jolly by whoever was booking it, I assume because it was in Miami.
3.) Forced by travel bookers to go LHR -> DFW -> SFO (and back) with a 3 and 4 hour stopovers to save £10 on a > £2000 ticket vs the direct route. Nothing could make them budge on this.
4.) Took many hours once to convince people LGW -> DUB -> EDI on Ryanair wasn't something I was prepared to tolerate to save £20 on getting to Edinburgh, on last minute ticket.
5.) Erratic rules on "self-extending" a trip, sometimes this is no problem, sometimes a giant fight and sometimes outright refused.
Took hours convincing someone to let me extend a Sunday -> Friday SFO biz trip by two days. Saved over £1500 on flights due to Saturday stay rules and got a couple of extra days to myself to explore Napa Valley. 3 different people rejected the idea before I got someone that was thankful a traveller was trying to save the company money and even paid for my extra two nights hotel out of the savings they made on the travel.
6.) Refused LHR -> HEL -> ICN on a Finnair bargain basement ticket. Sent LHR -> ICN direct in last minute J instead at > £4000 vs £1500 despite me being really keen to fly the longer but much cheaper route. Some part of it being keen to save the company £2500, some of it being needing 130 extra TP's on top of the 280 to requalify for Gold.
Trip < 5 hours: Y
5 < Trip < 8 hours: Y+ (if available), Y otherwise.
Trip > 8 hours: J
Travel policy is "erratic" though. Examples :-
0.) "Prefered Airline" is BA, but policy is also "book cheapest ticket". Nobody seems to really know what this means.
1.) Refused BA First even though it was cheaper than CW, LHR->SFO (on our own systems, not just the BA headline fair) as First is out-of-policy.
2.) Vendor conference in Miami. Y only as the conference (which is an excellent bit of professional development) was seen a jolly by whoever was booking it, I assume because it was in Miami.
3.) Forced by travel bookers to go LHR -> DFW -> SFO (and back) with a 3 and 4 hour stopovers to save £10 on a > £2000 ticket vs the direct route. Nothing could make them budge on this.
4.) Took many hours once to convince people LGW -> DUB -> EDI on Ryanair wasn't something I was prepared to tolerate to save £20 on getting to Edinburgh, on last minute ticket.
5.) Erratic rules on "self-extending" a trip, sometimes this is no problem, sometimes a giant fight and sometimes outright refused.
Took hours convincing someone to let me extend a Sunday -> Friday SFO biz trip by two days. Saved over £1500 on flights due to Saturday stay rules and got a couple of extra days to myself to explore Napa Valley. 3 different people rejected the idea before I got someone that was thankful a traveller was trying to save the company money and even paid for my extra two nights hotel out of the savings they made on the travel.
6.) Refused LHR -> HEL -> ICN on a Finnair bargain basement ticket. Sent LHR -> ICN direct in last minute J instead at > £4000 vs £1500 despite me being really keen to fly the longer but much cheaper route. Some part of it being keen to save the company £2500, some of it being needing 130 extra TP's on top of the 280 to requalify for Gold.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 178
Large finance company with fixed price agreements with a number of airlines.
Less than 5 hours = Y
Anything else is in J however when booking J our travel department often remind ed us that colleague A or manager B did the same routing a few months before and booked into Y. I'd usually acknowledge that and press ahead with a J booking
Less than 5 hours = Y
Anything else is in J however when booking J our travel department often remind ed us that colleague A or manager B did the same routing a few months before and booked into Y. I'd usually acknowledge that and press ahead with a J booking
#19
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Accor Plat, Pucci Fan Club
Posts: 1,779
Global FMCG (FTSE100)
< 4 hours is Y
> 4 hours is J
Applies to all employees but in reality it is mainly senior positions that have fully Global roles and thus travel often.
< 4 hours is Y
> 4 hours is J
Applies to all employees but in reality it is mainly senior positions that have fully Global roles and thus travel often.
#20
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 178
6.) Refused LHR -> HEL -> ICN on a Finnair bargain basement ticket. Sent LHR -> ICN direct in last minute J instead at > £4000 vs £1500 despite me being really keen to fly the longer but much cheaper route. Some part of it being keen to save the company £2500, some of it being needing 130 extra TP's on top of the 280 to requalify for Gold.
I've pulled out the "I fly with you in J" card on OZ when I screwed up and arrived at the airport waaaay too late for a shorthaul Y flight. They put me on the next available flight for free. On a corporate level having the airline look after you when it counts most makes the occasional £2500 a small price to pay.
#21
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Somewhere around Europe...
Programs: BA Gold; MB Ti; HH Diamond; IHG Plat; RR Gold
Posts: 530
Work for a large global tech firm.
Required to choose Lowest "logical" fare on all routings (in practice adding up to 2 connections). Therefore in reality this means nearly all travel is in Y.
I believe there's some mythical internal status for those who travel more than 100K miles/pa, those folk can book J but only on routes longer than 12 hours (!).
Required to choose Lowest "logical" fare on all routings (in practice adding up to 2 connections). Therefore in reality this means nearly all travel is in Y.
I believe there's some mythical internal status for those who travel more than 100K miles/pa, those folk can book J but only on routes longer than 12 hours (!).
#22
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,254
In academia it's always the cheapest possible unless you have a medical condition that requires Y+ or J.
My OH works in pharma consulting and the policy seems to be Y for European flights and J for long haul. I don't think there's a specific length cut off. I do think it depends whether the client or his company is paying though.
My OH works in pharma consulting and the policy seems to be Y for European flights and J for long haul. I don't think there's a specific length cut off. I do think it depends whether the client or his company is paying though.
#24
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Accor Plat, Pucci Fan Club
Posts: 1,779
If you travel a lot in long haul, would a companies travel policy impact your decision making when considering a job?
I know it would for me! It would be a very important factor.
I know it would for me! It would be a very important factor.
#25
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: London
Programs: BAEC gold, Marriott gold, Hilton gold
Posts: 1,922
Oil & gas sector
Y or WT+ (if available).
For long haul I have usually been successful in booking J if I can show its about the same or less than direct WT+. Not sure if that's just me or across the whole company. I have an advantage that I travel to provide on site consulting and trouble shooting that is billable. So several times I have threaten to stop travelling and since then company's been lenient with me. I also have a back problem and company HR has a letter from my GP.
Y or WT+ (if available).
For long haul I have usually been successful in booking J if I can show its about the same or less than direct WT+. Not sure if that's just me or across the whole company. I have an advantage that I travel to provide on site consulting and trouble shooting that is billable. So several times I have threaten to stop travelling and since then company's been lenient with me. I also have a back problem and company HR has a letter from my GP.
#26
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
I could do a transatlantic every 6 months in Y. I'd have no desire to do that every month or more frequently.
But it's not something I'm going to ask about at first interview unless I'm told I'm going to be in the air 50% of the time or more.
#27
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Betwixt SEA and LHR
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, AS Gold MVP, IC RA, IHG Spire Elite, HH Diamond, Dennis The Menace Fan Club
Posts: 1,354
I work for a gigantic software company who infamously have a public Y-only for everyone irrespective of level or distance travel policy. I work in engineering, particularly in operations and devops. Can confirm said policy does not actually apply once you've attained a certain level of seniority within.
I fly in J or F, depending on price and convenience for long-haul flights, and Y or J on shorthaul depending on price (eg. unlikely to plump for J on ex-LON zone 1 short hauls unless price difference is negligible, likely to plump for J on longer flights if not prohibitively expensive).
I fly in J or F, depending on price and convenience for long-haul flights, and Y or J on shorthaul depending on price (eg. unlikely to plump for J on ex-LON zone 1 short hauls unless price difference is negligible, likely to plump for J on longer flights if not prohibitively expensive).
#28
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: KLM Plat, BA Bronze
Posts: 383
Oil and Gas,
Untill recently
Y<8hrs
Y+ or J >8hrs, but required VP approval so in reality limited to middle management+
Now however:
Horse and cart would probably be to expensive...
Y everywhere (VP or above J>8hrs)
Untill recently
Y<8hrs
Y+ or J >8hrs, but required VP approval so in reality limited to middle management+
Now however:
Horse and cart would probably be to expensive...
Y everywhere (VP or above J>8hrs)
#29
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Jose, CA
Programs: BA Gold, Ritz-Carlton Gold
Posts: 98
Multinational tech company.
Our policy is Y if the trip is less than 8 hours, J if it's longer. We are allowed to book any itinerary within about $1000 of the cheapest routing that has the minimal number of stops.
Our policy is Y if the trip is less than 8 hours, J if it's longer. We are allowed to book any itinerary within about $1000 of the cheapest routing that has the minimal number of stops.
#30
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold | Hilton Honors Platinum
Posts: 205
Small UK HQ Pharma Company, Operations in US and EU5 Plus significant ROW distributors.
Head of BD, so a lot of travel usually with the CEO.
Official Policy: EU = Y. 5+ Hours WT+. Long Haul overnight = J.
In reality (based on 2016): EU BA = Y. Transatlantic East Coast BA (75% of travel) = J/F. Transatlantic West Coast BA = F. Far East = Finnair J.
Head of BD, so a lot of travel usually with the CEO.
Official Policy: EU = Y. 5+ Hours WT+. Long Haul overnight = J.
In reality (based on 2016): EU BA = Y. Transatlantic East Coast BA (75% of travel) = J/F. Transatlantic West Coast BA = F. Far East = Finnair J.