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Old Jun 23, 2014, 10:17 pm
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US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.

The button to renew your US/Canadian ABTC will appear in your profile 30 days before the card expiration date.



Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)

Usage Experience Updates:

BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound

China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success

China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions

China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success

[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]

For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.



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Old Mar 1, 2015, 8:40 pm
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I don't have enough posts yet to edit the Wiki -- but if someone wants to regarding Long Beach:

"Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture"

I actually did my signature capture in January in Long Beach at the Seaport Offices on Ocean Blvd (I originally did my Global Entry at LAX), via walk-in. They were really cool about it when I explained I had all my paperwork w/no appointment and just needed a signature capture. Took 5 minutes and I got the card a few days later in the mail.
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 8:49 pm
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Tried my apec card for first time today arriving in ua858 from San Fran. Had to walk all the way past everyone in immigration to the far side wall where APEC and diplomat line was.
No one but me in the line walked up he looked at card and passport including the blank back side and let me thorough with a stamp and no comment!

First time and it was a success at TPE
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 9:56 pm
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Use the crew/foreign diplomat line.
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by ls17031
Use the crew/foreign diplomat line.
Indeed, as that it how it was even set up at IAD.

ABTC cardholders can't use NEXUS unless NEXUS members; ABTC cardholders with GE can't use NEXUS unless they are NEXUS members.
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 1:20 pm
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If entering USA/CAN and your ABTC is NOT issued by USA/CAN, use the crew/foreign diplomat line.

If entering USA and your ABTC is issued by USA/CAN, you should probably be using your passport at GLOBAL ENTRY. Does US CBP allow US citizens to use ABTC when they be definition should be eligible for GE?

If entering CAN and your ABTC is issued by USA/CAN, use the crew/foreign diplomat line unless you have NEXUS????
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by seawolf
Does US CBP allow US citizens to use ABTC when they be definition should be eligible for GE?
Yes, at least it's sometimes allowed. But it's not generally allowed by US CBP, at least in that they might sometimes snap at the U.S. citizens for trying to do so.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Did you get a look at the sign - did it say 'frequent visitor' along with APEC card, ie the same sign you see at immigration? The frequent visitor document is a much simpler, easier program for Taiwan entry than APEC if you don't need the express service at other countries.
Honestly don't remember, this was on the far right side, the sign indicated APEC. I remember it was shared with disable people, there was one wheelchair person in front of me.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 7:01 pm
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I have not been to TPE T1 for a while. 4 months ago, far right is for APEC holders, Disabled person as well as Diplomat. There were two Frequent Visitor lanes, left to APEC lane. Things might be different now.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jerrywu
I have not been to TPE T1 for a while. 4 months ago, far right is for APEC holders, Disabled person as well as Diplomat. There were two Frequent Visitor lanes, left to APEC lane. Things might be different now.
Pretty much the same setup now in T2 - but for those who want fast entry to Taiwan, the frequent visitor permit is much easier and faster than the APEC card and will avoid the argument over endorsement.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Pretty much the same setup now in T2 - but for those who want fast entry to Taiwan, the frequent visitor permit is much easier and faster than the APEC card and will avoid the argument over endorsement.
Agree, I have the permit paper stored in my iPad, so as to show IO if there was a dispute over my APEC being blank back side. Being in a few occasions, Frequent Visitor counters closed, I was waved to use APEC counter as a result.

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Old Mar 8, 2015, 12:25 pm
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Was denied to use APEC lane and I asked officer to show official document why! After he showed me a paper I told him this is not an official government document. He let me in and speaks nothing.
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by wpyeh
Was denied to use APEC lane and I asked officer to show official document why! After he showed me a paper I told him this is not an official government document. He let me in and speaks nothing.

Where was it? If it is in the title, I apologize. On mobile I cannot see it easily.

That was with TPE T1.

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Old Mar 8, 2015, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by GotSeoul
Entry Experience:

BKK Suvarnabhumi International Airport. Saturday 3 January 2015 approx. 11:40am.
Used my US Issued ABTC to go through Premium Lane, no wait, walked right up and had no problems getting through. I do have a non-Imm-B Visa so was stamped with 90 days. Don't know if they would have stamped 30 or 60 if I didn't have the visa.
Has anyone used a U.S. or Canada issued ABTC to enter Thailand without a visa?

Were you granted the normal 30-day visa free entry or the the longer 59-day APEC entry?
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Always Flyin
Has anyone used a U.S. or Canada issued ABTC to enter Thailand without a visa?

Were you granted the normal 30-day visa free entry or the the longer 59-day APEC entry?
I used the ABTC card last week to enter and exit Thailand; stamped in my passport was a 30 day entry. The agent who actually had good english stated you can use ABTC card to enter the line but we will do non endorsed cards with 30 day entry if passport allows visa free.
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by NickP 1K
I used the ABTC card last week to enter and exit Thailand; stamped in my passport was a 30 day entry. The agent who actually had good english stated you can use ABTC card to enter the line but we will do non endorsed cards with 30 day entry if passport allows visa free.
Thanks.
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