The Consolidated CLEAR Information Thread (Locations, Promotions, Value)
Jul 13, 2017, 11:11 am
#376
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,746
Perhaps their rules caught up with reality.
Originally, CLEAR was supposed to be a trusted traveler program. It didn't turn out that way.
Since all you are doing now is paying to go to the front of the line, there is no reason to limit it to citizens/LPRs.
As far as I know (someone correct me if I am wrong), approval for CLEAR is automatic and no one gets turned down. So you could have just spent time in prison for smuggling and armed robbery and you could successfully sign up for CLEAR on the day of your release.
Originally, CLEAR was supposed to be a trusted traveler program. It didn't turn out that way.
Since all you are doing now is paying to go to the front of the line, there is no reason to limit it to citizens/LPRs.
As far as I know (someone correct me if I am wrong), approval for CLEAR is automatic and no one gets turned down. So you could have just spent time in prison for smuggling and armed robbery and you could successfully sign up for CLEAR on the day of your release.
I am also searching for this but cannot find this specific rule. In the past I've seen it but now it's nowhere to be found.
All I can see in the requirements is that a US driving license is required
and many non-citizens/LPR are eligible for driving licenses (students, diplomats, etc).
All I can see in the requirements is that a US driving license is required
and many non-citizens/LPR are eligible for driving licenses (students, diplomats, etc).
Jul 13, 2017, 11:54 am
#377
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: MSP & MCO
Programs: DL PM & NRSA, AA Gold, ANA Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, National EC Exec, GE, CLEAR
Posts: 1,225
Perhaps their rules caught up with reality.
Originally, CLEAR was supposed to be a trusted traveler program. It didn't turn out that way.
Since all you are doing now is paying to go to the front of the line, there is no reason to limit it to citizens/LPRs.
As far as I know (someone correct me if I am wrong), approval for CLEAR is automatic and no one gets turned down. So you could have just spent time in prison for smuggling and armed robbery and you could successfully sign up for CLEAR on the day of your release.
Originally, CLEAR was supposed to be a trusted traveler program. It didn't turn out that way.
Since all you are doing now is paying to go to the front of the line, there is no reason to limit it to citizens/LPRs.
As far as I know (someone correct me if I am wrong), approval for CLEAR is automatic and no one gets turned down. So you could have just spent time in prison for smuggling and armed robbery and you could successfully sign up for CLEAR on the day of your release.
Lest I checked at one point they had US Citizen in the restrictions but yeah who knows.
You do at least need to have some residence in the states though as it requires you to have a US address for enrollment
Jul 13, 2017, 3:47 pm
#378
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA
Programs: DL 2MM/PM, HH LT <>, Amex Plat
Posts: 1,283
SLC online today
Clear has started operations in terminal two at Salt Lake City International.
If they remain open in the evening when TSA closes the Precheck line, I'm in.
Most of the time when I catch a late evening flight, the Precheck line is closed.
Jim
If they remain open in the evening when TSA closes the Precheck line, I'm in.
Most of the time when I catch a late evening flight, the Precheck line is closed.
Jim
Jul 15, 2017, 4:40 pm
#379
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat
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Huge pre-check line @sfo T-3 earlier this week (par for course) but I waltzed by everyone with Clear. Easily pays for itself in time saved.
Jul 17, 2017, 4:08 am
#381
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: MSP & MCO
Programs: DL PM & NRSA, AA Gold, ANA Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, National EC Exec, GE, CLEAR
Posts: 1,225
Jul 17, 2017, 5:14 am
#382
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Location: ATL
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At ATL this morning, Clear lanes were most certainly not worth anything. Clear rep directing the non-moving line was estimating 30 minutes to get through. I walked over to non-Clear Precheck and got to the other side in about 20.
And they have got to do something about those automated bins. Screening itself takes at least 2x as long now, which can't be helping the long lines.
And they have got to do something about those automated bins. Screening itself takes at least 2x as long now, which can't be helping the long lines.
Jul 17, 2017, 12:39 pm
#383
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
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Updated wiki with latest coming soon email:
- Dallas Love
- "full coverage at Detroit Metro Airport"
- Dallas Love
- "full coverage at Detroit Metro Airport"
Jul 17, 2017, 12:42 pm
#384
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,746
Can you explain how this physically came about.
In my experience, the CLEAR rep walks you past the TSA ID checker to the front of the line. Was this not happening?
In my experience, the CLEAR rep walks you past the TSA ID checker to the front of the line. Was this not happening?
At ATL this morning, Clear lanes were most certainly not worth anything. Clear rep directing the non-moving line was estimating 30 minutes to get through. I walked over to non-Clear Precheck and got to the other side in about 20.
And they have got to do something about those automated bins. Screening itself takes at least 2x as long now, which can't be helping the long lines.
And they have got to do something about those automated bins. Screening itself takes at least 2x as long now, which can't be helping the long lines.
Jul 17, 2017, 4:12 pm
#386
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: UA MP / *A Silver
Posts: 30
CLEAR Retention Offer: $99 + $50 = $149 for 2-member family!
EDIT: What I wrote below is partially wrong but I cannot edit the title so I'm just going to clarify here: It turns out my wife and I were actually put on two separate accounts: I was $179 and she was able to create one at $50. So our total is $229. This reduction to $99 is for me and for me alone; so our total is $149. Still, it's a nice savings: 45%.
Hey everyone, I don't post often, but wanted to share the following awesome discovery:
My wife and I just took advantage of CLEAR's 30-day free trial. While we fly a decent amount (always *A Silver, once *A Gold), $179/year for the two of us wasn't really worth it (esp since, on a recent trip, neither B6 nor VX out of JFK had CLEAR), even though it would admittedly be a life saver out of our home airport SFO.
So I logged in just now (beautiful UX/UI, btw!) to cancel our membership before we were hit with the $179/renewal on the 30th. I was then prompted with a simple questionnaire asking why we were cancelling.
I clicked "TOO EXPENSIVE."
And I was immediately presented with this (see attached).
$99/year for the two of us?! Now we're talking. SOLD!
Hey everyone, I don't post often, but wanted to share the following awesome discovery:
My wife and I just took advantage of CLEAR's 30-day free trial. While we fly a decent amount (always *A Silver, once *A Gold), $179/year for the two of us wasn't really worth it (esp since, on a recent trip, neither B6 nor VX out of JFK had CLEAR), even though it would admittedly be a life saver out of our home airport SFO.
So I logged in just now (beautiful UX/UI, btw!) to cancel our membership before we were hit with the $179/renewal on the 30th. I was then prompted with a simple questionnaire asking why we were cancelling.
I clicked "TOO EXPENSIVE."
And I was immediately presented with this (see attached).
$99/year for the two of us?! Now we're talking. SOLD!
Last edited by TWA884; Jul 26, 2017 at 4:16 pm Reason: Edit title
Jul 19, 2017, 7:09 pm
#388
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
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If you already have Precheck, whether CLEAR will provide any additional benefit depends whether the Precheck lines at your frequent airports get backed up much. If so, having CLEAR lets you cut to the front of those lines. Whether that's sufficient incentive to pay for it (and note the discounted pricing available to Delta Sky Miles members, even w/o status, as mentioned in the wiki) of course depends on personal circumstances.
Jul 19, 2017, 9:16 pm
#389
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
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+1 At some airports the pre-check line is often longer than the regular line. Clear means you waltz to the conveyer belt. Also don't forget Clear works at some sports arenas. Always saves me at least 20m getting into the ballpark. ^
Now I suppose if I consider the real cost ($5 x 20x per year) I might reconsider but there is a value to knowing that I never have to wait at security at my home airport.
Now I suppose if I consider the real cost ($5 x 20x per year) I might reconsider but there is a value to knowing that I never have to wait at security at my home airport.
Jul 19, 2017, 9:45 pm
#390
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If you're asking how a non-CLEAR Pre line took less time...its because I walked across the Atrium to the other Pre entrance (which has no CLEAR option at all), which was simply less busy overall.