Jun 23, 2014, 10:17 pm
Last edit by: Boraxo
US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.
The button to renew your US/Canadian ABTC will appear in your profile 30 days before the card expiration date.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
US/Canadian Issued ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card: Updates, Experiences, Q&A
Jan 5, 2014, 11:53 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: YVR
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US/Canadian Issued ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card: Updates, Experiences, Q&A
Canada announced participation in the APEC ABTC program back in October (See http://www.vancouversun.com/business...735/story.html) and the application procedure suggested here (http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2013/10...ss-travel-card) is to contact an e-mail address of ABTC‑[email protected]. But that e-mail address seems to bounce back as a bad address.
Does anyone know the proper contact to get the application completed? Has anyone been successful in Canada getting it activated?
Thank you!
Does anyone know the proper contact to get the application completed? Has anyone been successful in Canada getting it activated?
Thank you!
May 13, 2014, 10:55 am
#2
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
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Posts: 14,635
Canada will determine eligibility (NEXUS required) and application will be done on CBP GOES website. US DHS will issue ABTC for Canada.
$70 for 3 years. Only provides access to crew/diplomatic lanes. No visa "waiver."
See page 6.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014...2014-10767.pdf
$70 for 3 years. Only provides access to crew/diplomatic lanes. No visa "waiver."
See page 6.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014...2014-10767.pdf
Jun 12, 2014, 12:48 am
#3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,341
ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card for US/Canadian Citizens: Updates, Experiences, Q&A
It now up.
Application Submitted!
It now up.
Application Submitted!
It now up.
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Jun 12, 2014, 1:12 am
#6
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Ditto! I figured I would check back in a week. Must be a computer...not a human.
It's evidence of residency not evidence of residency in the States... I think.
It's evidence of residency not evidence of residency in the States... I think.
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Jun 12, 2014, 1:51 am
#7
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SoCal to TPE
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Silver (somehow)
Posts: 22
Just submitted my application! How long did it take to get approved, a couple hours, a couple minutes?
To answer myself, it took about 10 min!
To answer myself, it took about 10 min!
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Jun 12, 2014, 2:23 am
#8
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Posts: 33,532
The APEC card requires you travel for business purposes to the member countries. Plus you must be a Global Entry, or similar member. Get interviewed, etc.
I'm also a little confused about the APEC card. The website shows that you still need a visa for countries that require them. Is the purpose of the card to just get through security quicker?
The APEC card costs $70, in addition to the $100 Global Entry or similar, fee.
Jun 12, 2014, 5:42 am
#9
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 4,728
Can't find it, tried here: http://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-tr...ked-questions2, then it takes me back to global entry?
According to above, if already Global Entry member, all you have to do is visit center for electronic signature?? Very confusing...
A link please, thanks!
Found it!
Buried in my global entry account....the sites aren't very user friendly!
According to above, if already Global Entry member, all you have to do is visit center for electronic signature?? Very confusing...
A link please, thanks!
Found it!
Buried in my global entry account....the sites aren't very user friendly!
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Jun 12, 2014, 9:18 am
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Definitely not being sent to other countries for pre-clearance.
Refer to last discussion in May in this thread. The expectation is that the only benefit is to allow for access to crew/diplomatic lanes in APEC countries.
If you are a GE member, then all you have to do is pay the fee, "self-certify" you are a business person with business in APEC countries and go to an enrollment center and have your signature captured. I believe the signature gets printed onto the card.
I don't think you can apply for the card, if you don't live in the US. Perhaps apply in the country you're living in?
The APEC card requires you travel for business purposes to the member countries. Plus you must be a Global Entry, or similar member. Get interviewed, etc.
I'm also a little confused about the APEC card. The website shows that you still need a visa for countries that require them. Is the purpose of the card to just get through security quicker?
The APEC card costs $70, in addition to the $100 Global Entry or similar, fee.
The APEC card requires you travel for business purposes to the member countries. Plus you must be a Global Entry, or similar member. Get interviewed, etc.
I'm also a little confused about the APEC card. The website shows that you still need a visa for countries that require them. Is the purpose of the card to just get through security quicker?
The APEC card costs $70, in addition to the $100 Global Entry or similar, fee.
Can't find it, tried here: http://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-tr...ked-questions2, then it takes me back to global entry?
According to above, if already Global Entry member, all you have to do is visit center for electronic signature?? Very confusing...
A link please, thanks!
According to above, if already Global Entry member, all you have to do is visit center for electronic signature?? Very confusing...
A link please, thanks!
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Jun 12, 2014, 10:15 am
#11
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 4,728
After some digging, found it in my GE account....not very obvious. I applied and received approval relatively quickly. I will drop into enrollment center next time I'm in area.
Hopefully it will eventually be valid for entry into two countries that I visit and still requires visas: Indonesia and Vietnam.
Thanks!
Jun 12, 2014, 10:51 am
#12
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SMF
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Posts: 27
thanks for the update guys, but where is the option to apply ABTC though?
I logged in to GOES and clicked manage membership, but not seeing the option to apply for ABTC though.
I logged in to GOES and clicked manage membership, but not seeing the option to apply for ABTC though.
Jun 12, 2014, 10:55 am
#13
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Location: NYC
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US travelers to get APEC Business Travel Card
After you click manage membership (assuming you are existing GE) there should be a row of blue buttons across the top allowing you to replace a card, apply for Netherlands Privium, Korea SES, and APEC Business Travel Card.
Jun 12, 2014, 10:57 am
#14
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 4,728
Jun 12, 2014, 10:58 am
#15
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APEC Business Travel Card for US Citizens - Now Accepting Applications
Heads up:
As of June 12th, 2014 (today!), CBP is accepting ABTC applications on the GOES website for existing CBP trusted travelers.
I already put mine in and got conditional approval back in less than an hour.
As of June 12th, 2014 (today!), CBP is accepting ABTC applications on the GOES website for existing CBP trusted travelers.
I already put mine in and got conditional approval back in less than an hour.
