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Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport)
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO
YYZ (Nexus office)

Usage Experience Updates:
HND - 07/30/14 - success
MNL - 07/24/14 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens)
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2)

No Working Equipment as of Reported Date:
AMS - 06/03/14 - indicated GEEC outside of U.S. not expected to do ABTC at all
Blaine Nexus office - 6/23/14
Houston downtown city hall office - 07/2014 - no signature reader
PDX - 6/21/14

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Old Jun 12, 14, 10:57 am   #16
 
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thanks for the update guys, but where is the option to apply ABTC though?
I logged in to GOES and clicked manage membership, but not seeing the option to apply for ABTC though.
If you click manage membership, should have menu row and last button is apply for apec, no?
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Old Jun 12, 14, 10:58 am   #17
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APEC Business Travel Card for US Citizens - Now Accepting Applications

Heads up:

As of June 12th, 2014 (today!), CBP is accepting ABTC applications on the GOES website for existing CBP trusted travelers.

I already put mine in and got conditional approval back in less than an hour.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 11:09 am   #18
 
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After you click manage membership (assuming you are existing GE) there should be a row of blue buttons across the top allowing you to replace a card, apply for Netherlands Privium, Korea SES, and APEC Business Travel Card.
I've seen Privium and SES, but not seeing ABTC though....not sure it's because I'm a Nexus member (dual US/Canadian citizen)?

any Nexus member having luck here?
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Old Jun 12, 14, 11:18 am   #19
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I've seen Privium and SES, but not seeing ABTC though....not sure it's because I'm a Nexus member (dual US/Canadian citizen)?

any Nexus member having luck here?
Bug?

According to page 4, US citizen enrolled in NEXUS should be able to apply for ABTC.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014...2014-10767.pdf

Speculation.....Since Canada contracted CBP to issue ABTC for Canadians and I haven't seen anything from CBSA on when they will begin ABTC for Canadians, maybe your Canadian citizenship is causing the ABTC button not to show up.

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Old Jun 12, 14, 11:28 am   #20
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Refer to last discussion in May in this thread. The expectation is that the only benefit is to allow for access to crew/diplomatic lanes in APEC countries.
Thanks for the link, I had followed the original thread for the first couple of years. The APEC card doesn't seem so useful, without the visas to the other countries.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 11:34 am   #21
 
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Bug?

According to page 4, US citizen enrolled in NEXUS should be able to apply for ABTC.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014...2014-10767.pdf

Speculation.....Since Canada contracted CBP to issue ABTC for Canadians and I haven't seen anything from CBSA on when they will begin ABTC for Canadians, maybe your Canadian citizenship is causing the ABTC button not to show up.
maybe that's why, I'm on the phone with GOES tech support. will send an update once I find out from them.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 11:41 am   #22
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maybe that's why, I'm on the phone with GOES tech support. will send an update once I find out from them.
Keep us up to date. I'm thinking that is the problem because GOES isn't programmed to know if you are applying for US ABTC or Canadian ABTC.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 12:06 pm   #23
 
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maybe that's why, I'm on the phone with GOES tech support. will send an update once I find out from them.
just got off the phone with GOES tech support, they seem don't know what's going on and couldn't help. just sent an email to GOES and will see what they respond
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Old Jun 12, 14, 1:25 pm   #24
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Heads up:

As of June 12th, 2014 (today!), CBP is accepting ABTC applications on the GOES website for existing CBP trusted travelers.

I already put mine in and got conditional approval back in less than an hour.
Thanks for the info. Took them long enough to get to this point, and will do the same as you.
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Thanks for the link, I had followed the original thread for the first couple of years. The APEC card doesn't seem so useful, without the visas to the other countries.
APEC card is not a replacement for visas to countries that you would need visas for.

It is a special priority lane that is less crowded and some airport part of the crew lanes.

In my situation the arrival airports that APEC is useful are TPE, MNL and BKK.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 2:13 pm   #26
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APEC card is not a replacement for visas to countries that you would need visas for.

It is a special priority lane that is less crowded and some airport part of the crew lanes.

In my situation the arrival airports that APEC is useful are TPE, MNL and BKK.
It should be noted that while US and Canada ABTCs are not expected to be a visa "replacement", ABTC cards from APEC countries other than US and Canada can replace a visa if pre-cleared by foreign APEC countries.
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Old Jun 12, 14, 3:20 pm   #27
 
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It should be noted that while US and Canada ABTCs are not expected to be a visa "replacement", ABTC cards from APEC countries other than US and Canada can replace a visa if pre-cleared by foreign APEC countries.
As a 8+yr APEC card holder your pre-clear application is like the business visa application.
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just got off the phone with GOES tech support, they seem don't know what's going on and couldn't help. just sent an email to GOES and will see what they respond
called the GOES tech support again and spoke to their supervisor...not a pleasant experience...she kept on saying it's not launched yet, said maybe your friend applied directly thru APEC org. I kindly told her it's not possible, I told her maybe it's because I'm dual citizenship and asked her to check on it...she said i'm not listening to her and she just hung up on me...very bad experience....
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APEC card is not a replacement for visas to countries that you would need visas for. It is a special priority lane that is less crowded and some airport part of the crew lanes.
So VOA remains for Indonesia and Vietnam.

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In my situation the arrival airports that APEC is useful are TPE, MNL and BKK.
This is very helpful. In Taipei, normal foreigners lines are jammed with tourists from China. For Bkk, this is almost as good as priority pass line, right?

Thanks
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Old Jun 12, 14, 7:32 pm   #30
 
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So VOA remains for Indonesia and Vietnam.

This is very helpful. In Taipei, normal foreigners lines are jammed with tourists from China. For Bkk, this is almost as good as priority pass line, right?

Thanks
For US APEC yes you need visa for Indonesia and Vietnam.

BKK it is a priority line.

Taiwan: I use my Canadian passport because my APEC is out of HK.
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