Anyone Ever Get Turned Down for Global Entry?
Mar 21, 2012, 12:25 pm
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That's an interesting theory, but it doesn't jibe with the facts as stated by Chrisinhouston. He was told by the agent that if he got a letter from the Georgia court, then he could be approved. If the issue was "lying" about the juvenile arrest, then a letter from the Georgia court would not cure the problem. The requesting of the letter suggests that is the arrest, not the failing to mention the arrest, that was the problem.
After your day in court you were not convicted. Thus, I think if you had told the truth, you would not have been denied, but it might have taken several weeks to be approved.
Global Entry requires members to be honest; the CBP is trusting you to tell the truth to the kiosk upon each entry. So the application was your first test, and from the CBP's perspective you failed it, even if it was a memory lapse.
While I am not as old as you and I've never been arrested, I recall every detention by a LEO whether just a speeding ticket or a LEO accusing me of theft. I'm sure I would remember an arrest.
Global Entry requires members to be honest; the CBP is trusting you to tell the truth to the kiosk upon each entry. So the application was your first test, and from the CBP's perspective you failed it, even if it was a memory lapse.
While I am not as old as you and I've never been arrested, I recall every detention by a LEO whether just a speeding ticket or a LEO accusing me of theft. I'm sure I would remember an arrest.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:01 pm
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I think there’s a big difference between crimes of one’s relatives, and crimes of one’s spouse. As the spouse can exert far more control over someone than virtually anyone else. For example: “Hey honey, I need you to smuggle some illegals into the US for me… Or else I’ll divorce you, take all your money, and keep the kids”.
Mar 21, 2012, 3:01 pm
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That's an interesting theory, but it doesn't jibe with the facts as stated by Chrisinhouston. He was told by the agent that if he got a letter from the Georgia court, then he could be approved. If the issue was "lying" about the juvenile arrest, then a letter from the Georgia court would not cure the problem. The requesting of the letter suggests that is the arrest, not the failing to mention the arrest, that was the problem.
People get arrested all the time, and are innocent. I fail to see why the CBP would deny an arrested person who came clean.
As for a juvenile arrest, was 17 juvenile for criminal purposes in Georgia in the 1970s?
Mar 21, 2012, 7:57 pm
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Mar 21, 2012, 9:23 pm
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My understanding is that even a stale conviction will bar you from the program. The website asks if you have been convicted of any crime which has not been pardoned I know that a pardon does work.
Mar 22, 2012, 5:36 pm
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http://www.thenorthernlight.com/news...or_nexus_cards
Saunders said that he’s always maintained that minor violations outside the NEXUS program should be given some consideration, “and now they are. It looks like if you have a misdemeanor over 10 years old then that’s no longer automatically disqualifying, nor are old customs violations involving fines as long as the amount wasn’t significant.
Apr 5, 2012, 12:17 pm
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Will I get approved for Global Entry?
A bit embarrassed on my last international travel from Belgium. As usual, filling out customs form, I thought I didn't have any fruit (I never brought any), veggies etc, so I checked No to that question.
Later I realized that I have a sandwich in a zip-loc on my carry-on. I told a customs officer that's the case and I was sent to a full search. She wrote down cheese, ham in big red on my customs form. In the full search area, I handed my zip-loc and that was indeed everything. No charge or fine was imposed and I was on my way out in 2 mins.
Now obviously I falsely checked No to the customs form, so I'm wondering if I'll get denied on Global Entry even if I'm not charged with any fine. Will I have a chance or should I just forget about it?
Later I realized that I have a sandwich in a zip-loc on my carry-on. I told a customs officer that's the case and I was sent to a full search. She wrote down cheese, ham in big red on my customs form. In the full search area, I handed my zip-loc and that was indeed everything. No charge or fine was imposed and I was on my way out in 2 mins.
Now obviously I falsely checked No to the customs form, so I'm wondering if I'll get denied on Global Entry even if I'm not charged with any fine. Will I have a chance or should I just forget about it?
Apr 5, 2012, 12:33 pm
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At least there's some hope. I should have been clearer. My sister was nice enough to put a piece of lettuce in the sandwich and also include an apple in the same zip-loc. It's one of those where I told her I have plenty food on plane but was insisted that I should take what she made since my flight was at 7AM...
Apr 5, 2012, 5:29 pm
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To be frank someone who was arrested once as a minor but wasn't convicted of anything I would personally rate as a MUCH lower security threat than someone who spent a few years living in Russia (and not working for a Western company/embassy/etc.). But the CBP/TSA have their own logic I guess.
Apr 11, 2012, 9:04 am
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Apr 11, 2012, 8:34 pm
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I've read that you can now get Nexus with a minor arrest. There was some discussion about CBP liberalizing the standards somewhat. I also note that the question on prior records has been changed from have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense to have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense which has not been pardoned.
Apr 15, 2012, 8:10 pm
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I was denied, twice, first for FORGETTING to list a juvenile offence that i didnt think mattered as its sealed and over 10 years old. And then when i re-applied, because i HAD a juvenile offence. $200 down the drain.
