Global Entry - Dual Citizenship
Apr 18, 2014, 4:58 pm
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I'd suggest disclosing it, at least when dealing with the US/CBP if/when it comes up.
Apr 19, 2014, 12:52 am
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Apr 19, 2014, 8:56 am
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Apr 19, 2014, 4:26 pm
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Apr 21, 2014, 9:45 am
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I started my GE application on GOES. I have US and German citizenship. I clicked the 'add citizenship' button to add my German citizenship but forgot that my German passport is expired, so I couldn't use it to verify my citizenship in the next application step. It's the only doc I have to verify my German citizenship.
So I figured I'd delete my German citizenship, but when I did that a warning came on the screen saying if I deleted a citizenship I could be denied GE. Not wanting to risk it, I didn't delete my German citizenship from the application.
My new German passport is in process, but could take 4-6 weeks and I'm in a hurry to get conditionally approved as I will have to carefully monitor interview cancellations (at SFO) in order to get final approval before a trip on July 1st.
Any advice? I think I am stuck waiting until my new German passport arrives.
So I figured I'd delete my German citizenship, but when I did that a warning came on the screen saying if I deleted a citizenship I could be denied GE. Not wanting to risk it, I didn't delete my German citizenship from the application.
My new German passport is in process, but could take 4-6 weeks and I'm in a hurry to get conditionally approved as I will have to carefully monitor interview cancellations (at SFO) in order to get final approval before a trip on July 1st.
Any advice? I think I am stuck waiting until my new German passport arrives.
Apr 21, 2014, 9:57 am
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Apr 21, 2014, 7:38 pm
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Apr 22, 2014, 2:12 am
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Not only is it 100% speculation, the speculation runs contrary to what routinely happens as a result of discovery of such at secondary: nothing more than a cursory examination if even that.
If it comes up, then disclose. If it doesn't come up, then it doesn't.
If it comes up, then disclose. If it doesn't come up, then it doesn't.
Apr 27, 2014, 5:32 am
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I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
Last edited by DryManhattan; Apr 27, 2014 at 6:51 am Reason: Edited for accuracy
Apr 27, 2014, 9:32 am
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I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
Personally, my recommendation to dual-US citizens or those US citizens intending to naturalize as a non-US national while keeping US citizenship is to submit formal notification to the US embassy/consulate and State in DC making them aware that you never intended nor intend to relinquish US citizenship by becoming also a citizen of the foreign country and using those non-US travel docs. And especially for GE members/applicants who have or intend to have dual-citizenship status. While this isn't necessary according to US admin protocols for State, it's the safer way to do it given some of the shenanigans that have gone on since the fall of 2001.
Apr 28, 2014, 11:44 am
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I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
I have just filled out the GOES Global Entry application and I too am completely confused by the citizenship section. I am a US citizen but I live in the UK and recently acquired UK citizenship. I've completed the US citizenship / documentation section ... but then, when clicking on the "add citizenship" button I see the following message:
"You may no longer be eligible for the Trusted Traveler Program you selected if you add a citizenship. [...edit...]
If you carry more than one country of citizenship, you will have the opportunity to add additional countries later on."
I have been through the application several times and there is NO opportunity to add a second citizenship.
I also have a PDF of a "how to complete a Global Entry application" powerpoint from May 2008 apparently published by US Customs & Border Protection that has instructions for an additional screen: "Do you wish to add another country of citizenship?"
This section is missing from the current 2014 Global Entry application.
So now I am hopelessly and utterly confused.
It looks like the "add another country of citizenship" field has been deleted for those who provide US as primary citizenship, but the "you can add it later" notes have not. I can't figure out however whether I should be providing the second citizenship.
Anybody been through this lately? Any advice?
Apr 28, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Personally, my recommendation to dual-US citizens or those US citizens intending to naturalize as a non-US national while keeping US citizenship is to submit formal notification to the US embassy/consulate and State in DC making them aware that you never intended nor intend to relinquish US citizenship by becoming also a citizen of the foreign country and using those non-US travel docs. And especially for GE members/applicants who have or intend to have dual-citizenship status. While this isn't necessary according to US admin protocols for State, it's the safer way to do it given some of the shenanigans that have gone on since the fall of 2001.
When I did my NEXUS application a couple of years ago I included both the US and IE document info, and showed both at my interview. Neither CBSA nor CBP raised an eyebrow.
Nov 17, 2014, 8:55 am
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I disclosed my Polish passport, and was not asked a single thing about it. Did my interview in Denver. I am also a student so i would imagine that I appear to be low risk.
I disclosed my Polish passport, and was not asked a single thing about it. Did my interview in Denver. I am also a student so i would imagine that I appear to be low risk.
Jan 7, 2015, 6:52 pm
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Global Entry Interview questions for naturalized citizen?
My wife is a naturalized US citizen, and has approved dual citizenship from her country of origin. She is scheduled for a Global Entry interview, and we're wondering if she needs to bring her non US passport to the interview in addition to her US passport, or if she'll even be asked about dual citizenship.
Does anyone have any insight or experience?
Does anyone have any insight or experience?
