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Old Sep 14, 08, 12:50 pm   #16
 
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Yes, we used mileage (ANA tool for availability and Amex miles thru AC for booking). For LH, you can use either MUC or FRA... it all depends on seat availability. From SFO, MUC is a little tougher since there are only 8 F seats on the daily 340 vs. 16 on the 744. Also, I found that LH releases award seats in the week prior to departure depending on load. This helped us change from a UA/LH DEN connection to an SFO nonstop in the last week, for a nominal $50 pp fee.
so using the ANA tool, I should just look for UA metal flights and then change them a week before to F or C class on LH ??? Cuz currently, I dont see ANY availability for F and C.....see my post here as at this rate, I may not be able to take the wifey on vacation to CAI in May 2009.

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Old Sep 14, 08, 1:57 pm   #17
 
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so using the ANA tool, I should just look for UA metal flights and then change them a week before to F or C class on LH ??? Cuz currently, I dont see ANY availability for F and C.....see my post here as at this rate, I may not be able to take the wifey on vacation to CAI in May 2009.

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Not sure about the last leg to CAI but for TATL, I would look for any LH metal from the west coast to FRA or MUC that fits your timetable, even if XXX-CAI isn't available at this time. You can always change your final destination and add on the CAI segment later for $50, or buy a cheap EU Y ticket since EU C is just Y with a guaranteed open middle seat anyway.

If you're looking for F, from the west coast, SFO and LAX are almost always the hardest to find in advance. LH doesn't necessarily release any award seats from those markets at times since they think can sell them for real $ in those markets.

YYC-FRA and DEN-MUC are almost always available in F a few months out since these are newer routes and smaller markets, but I'm not sure AC flies NS PDX-YYC. SEA-FRA is also generally available reasonably well in advance.

If you're OK with C, try the PDX-FRA non-stop which I would think would have avails this far out. If C is OK and not available from PDX, other two class options are YVR-FRA or DEN-FRA.

If you'd don't get a preferred routing to start, I would then start monitoring periodically but certainly daily once you hit two weeks prior.
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Old Sep 14, 08, 8:50 pm   #18
 
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okay..thanks!....I tried routing thru DEN and YVR and got some luck...but whats also interesting is I put down 1 passenger instead of 2..(im going to go with my wife but she will use her own miles)...and i got more availability!

I guess when you put down 2 passengers under searching for award travel, it wont show anything since theres no availability for 1 passenger to book two reward tickets...but if you do it by singles, it works.
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Old Sep 14, 08, 9:28 pm   #19
 
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Wait i'm confused. The pics of the lounge is a FCL, not the FCT?
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Old Sep 15, 08, 6:46 am   #20
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Thanks for the report / info SFO777

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Old Sep 15, 08, 9:14 pm   #21
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Wait i'm confused. The pics of the lounge is a FCL, not the FCT?
Correct. Those pics are of the FCL above A26, not the FCT.

If you like to watch planes, FCL is better. If you want to de driven to the aircraft, zig-zagging right under the wings and bodies and noses of a variety of aircraft, go FCT.
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Old Sep 15, 08, 11:17 pm   #22
 
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Correct. Those pics are of the FCL above A26, not the FCT.
I appreciate the clarification. Makes me want to burn my steadily devaluing UA miles for a F class to EU on LH (well...when starnet isn't filtering them).
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Old Sep 16, 08, 1:39 am   #23
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Wait i'm confused. The pics of the lounge is a FCL, not the FCT?
Good find !! Yes, it is really the FCL near A26
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Old Sep 16, 08, 6:33 pm   #24
 
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Great trip report! I have to agree about MUC's ease of use. The only reason I would connect through FRA on LH is to use the FCT, I really dislike how the airport is laid out and it's especially a pain when you arrive at the A gates and have to trudge to the C gates to grab a UA flight. Plus the UA RCC is awful.
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Old Nov 26, 08, 2:04 pm   #25
 
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Lufthansa FCT and First Class FRA-SFO

After everything I'd heard and read about the FCT, I opted to fly to FRA the night before our FRA-SFO return in order to experience the full FCT treatment. We stayed at the airport Sheraton, which is very comfortable and most conveniently located via skybridge directly across from the Admirals Club on level 3 between T1-B and T1-C.

Since we (Mrs. SFO specifically) did our part to help shore up the French economy during our 2 month stay, we had at nearly two dozen VAT tax receipts we needed to have stamped. That and the fact that we could load up a luggage cart in our hotel room and walk to the terminal made me decide to check in at the LH First check in facility in T1.

After check in and a side trip to the export customs and tax refund counters in T1-B, we walked back to the glass FC check-in area, where we waited a couple of minutes for our car to take us to the FCT.

As we drove up to the FCT at about 8:45A, our Personal Attendant came to the car and warmly welcomed us to the FCT. She guided us through a deserted lobby to our own personal security station and then an explanation and brief tour of the FCT. She took our passports and BPs for processing, returned the BPs a few minutes later and told us she would be back to collect us about 30 minutes before our 10:05A departure. For future VAT refund reference, the PA explained that they would call customs who would send over an agent to process our paperwork, although she cautioned that it could take as much as 45 minutes.

In spite of stories (from disgruntled and spoiled HONs) of bucket-listers crowding the facility, we found it pleasantly uncrowded (especially for a Monday morning) and had our choice of numerous comfortable seating pairs and dining room tables. After a delicious breakfast, we relaxed for 20 minutes until our PA came for us.

We took the elevator down to the departure level, where our PA retrieved our passports and handed us off to a most lovely LH driver who walked us to our car, this morning a Porsche Cayenne. After a 5 minute drive around the tarmac and around and under various structures, she parked our car almost under the nose of our 744. A short walk to the private gate elevator, up one level and we were in the jetway about 100 feet from the mid cabin door, right in front of the stairs to the upper level. She walked us to the door, introduced us to the FA at the door and we exchanged pleasant good-byes. Wasn't sure about tipping, but she seemed appreciative of the €20 note I slipped her when we shook hands.

We were the last F pax to board and the door was closed shortly after we settled into our 83AC.

In contrast to some of the recent xFRA catering complaints, we enjoyed exceptional food. In addition to our usual caviar, all the other starters were superb (yes, I tried them all!).





My halibut was excellent and the banana and chocolate cake was in the "to die for" category.



According to one of our FAs, this new menu was just rolled out, and according to the menu, featured Chinese-Canadian chef Susur Lee, who apparently has restaurants in Toronto and New York.

Starters...
Caviar
Marinated Loin of Lamb with Mint and Yogurt Sauce, Tomato Chutney and Mango Salsa
Poached Lobster with Yuzu Mustard Dressing and pickled Ginger
Beetroot Salad with Roquefort, Horseradish and pecked Peppercorn

Salad...
Frisee, Radicchio, Endive and Lamb's Lettuce with Bell Pepper, Cucumber and Mushooms with Orange Mustard or Macadamia Dressing

Mains...
LH's Traditional Roast Goose with Red Cabbage, Potato Dumpling and Herb Crumb Butter
Marinated Halibut with Wild Rice and Mushroom Ragout served with Potato and Celery Puree
Grilled Loin of Veal served with Polenta Spinach Lasagne, Tomato Sauce and Olives
Eggplant with Herb Polenta, Oven Fried black Olives and Tomatoes

Cheese and Dessert...
Warm Banana and Chocolate Cake with Caramel Sauce and Vanilla Ice Cream
South-east Asia Pudding of black Rice and Pineapple and Coconut

On the other hand, the lighter meal later titled "Grandpa's Favorite" featured some (presumably) distinctly German flavor. As I was still full from lunch and a great breakfast in the FCT, I only had the meatballs and mustard (wow, was that HOT!), pickles and the apple pie and fruit, all of which was very good.

Cold...
Celery Wild Mushroom Tartlet with Balsamic Vinegar Hazelnut Marinade and Parmesan Cheese
Herring Salad with Beetroot (I'm not that adventuresome)
Meatballs with Mustard
Mixed Pickles
Cold Mashed Lingdonberry

Hot...
Boiled Rump of Veal with Potato Vegetable Ragout
Filet of Perchpike with Chive Sauce, Champagne Sauerkraut and Fresh Noodles

LH First is a great west coast First Class option to/from Europe even with the dated seats/IFE. Inbound through MUC would be my preferred routing and return thru FRA for the amazing FCT experience. What is not to like about never having to deal with interminable walks through crowded unattractive concourses and gate lice?

Well done LH!

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Old Dec 27, 08, 10:34 am   #26
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Old Dec 27, 08, 1:06 pm   #27
 
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Very nice pictures. What method did you use to transfer your pictures?

I flew in Y Swissair 747 on the Upper Deck and it was awful. Very claustrophobic. But I am sure in F it must be nice. Also did C on a Pan Am SP Upper Deck and it was OK.

Food on LH even on Y I find good. F looks great. I don't like FRA Airport but I hear MUC is a great airport. Thanks.
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Old Dec 27, 08, 1:27 pm   #28
 
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Great pictures SFO777.

I have to say I wouldn't fancy travelling alone on the 747 upper deck and having a seat neighbour so close to me, it just doesn't seem very F Class these days although okay if you are travelling as a pair.
I often fly FRA-SFO on LH and try to get an upgrade from biz to F using UA SWU. when I get it, I totally love it. the F experience is awesome. I do travel alone and never felt anything negative in having someone next to me. the privacy is well respected.

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Old Dec 27, 08, 1:29 pm   #29
 
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I don't like FRA Airport but I hear MUC is a great airport. Thanks.
I agree with others on this thread: MUC is a much nicer airport but the FRA F lounge (HON lounge) is simply awesome!
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Old Dec 28, 08, 12:55 am   #30
 
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Very nice pictures. What method did you use to transfer your pictures?
Thanks. I used a Leica C-LUX 1 and uploaded the photos to flickr.com. Then copied the link to ft.com and then changed the [url] to [img] to get the photos instead of a link.
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