First Class marathon: RTW on Lufthansa, Garuda Indonesia, Korean & Cathay Pacific
#31
Join Date: May 2013
Location: S. Ga. USA
Programs: Delta
Posts: 80
SFO,
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl.
This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take
3 planes.
When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen
the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ?
BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl.
This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take
3 planes.
When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen
the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ?
BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
#32
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: AF Plat, DL Gold
Posts: 366
As SFO777 stated, I met him in London for the rest of the RTW trip. But being based in MSP, i took LH F out of ORD to FRA on the 748. I got the black Rimowa amenity kit and it was a great surprise! The FA said they are switching over to these during the holiday season. And of course I had to get a couple of more FC duckies ^
Flew DUS EWR in F earlier this week. Interesting to see the difference the direction of travel makes.
My wife and I consumed 2.5 bottles of the LPGS over the 9 or so hours.
The food was far superior than what you got. I have always found the catering to be superior ex Germany. I had a very nice goose for my entree with the St. Emilion.
That amenity kit you got on LAX MUC looks disappointing. On our flight the men were given the jet green Rimowa kit. My wife was given whatever ladies version they had but she was having none of it and asked for the male kit, which the crew happily supplied.
Looking forward to the rest of this report!
My wife and I consumed 2.5 bottles of the LPGS over the 9 or so hours.
The food was far superior than what you got. I have always found the catering to be superior ex Germany. I had a very nice goose for my entree with the St. Emilion.
That amenity kit you got on LAX MUC looks disappointing. On our flight the men were given the jet green Rimowa kit. My wife was given whatever ladies version they had but she was having none of it and asked for the male kit, which the crew happily supplied.
Looking forward to the rest of this report!
#33
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Denver CO
Programs: HHonors Gold, National Emerald Club, no airline affinity status
Posts: 3,347
Do you tip the driver when they drive you from the terminal to the plane? I noticed that he carried your bag onto the aircraft.
Great report. I am looking forward to the rest of the report.
Great report. I am looking forward to the rest of the report.
#34
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,609
Just awesome.
Most of my 72 hour hall passes involve "no chores and watching Netflix", not trips around the world. LOL.
Travel safe.
Most of my 72 hour hall passes involve "no chores and watching Netflix", not trips around the world. LOL.
Travel safe.
#36
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: United Silver, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 988
I think I recall reading that they do no accept tips, at least when I did my research for my trip in 2015.
#37
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,593
Bagus
I knew you would enjoy the wonderful service on Garuda.
I have not yet flown F, but Garuda J is my regular commute from SYD to DPS, CGK and some intra Asia flights.
Garuda is always a joy from check in to arrival, it makes the journey from our work home to our holiday home in Bali just wonderful.
The warmth of the crew, who are always delighted as we step onto the aircraft in SYD with a Salamat Datang and a Pagi Pagi.
Have experienced Sari and her great service - good to see she is now working the 777 F product.
Hope GA will find their way to the USA soon - I see they have the approvals again.
The Terminal at CGK is ok if its not busy and you get a jetway - if its a bus gate its always slow and painful.
I knew you would enjoy the wonderful service on Garuda.
I have not yet flown F, but Garuda J is my regular commute from SYD to DPS, CGK and some intra Asia flights.
Garuda is always a joy from check in to arrival, it makes the journey from our work home to our holiday home in Bali just wonderful.
The warmth of the crew, who are always delighted as we step onto the aircraft in SYD with a Salamat Datang and a Pagi Pagi.
Have experienced Sari and her great service - good to see she is now working the 777 F product.
Hope GA will find their way to the USA soon - I see they have the approvals again.
The Terminal at CGK is ok if its not busy and you get a jetway - if its a bus gate its always slow and painful.
SFO,
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl. This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take 3 planes. When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ? BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl. This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take 3 planes. When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ? BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
As SFO777 stated, I met him in London for the rest of the RTW trip. But being based in MSP, i took LH F out of ORD to FRA on the 748. I got the black Rimowa amenity kit and it was a great surprise! The FA said they are switching over to these during the holiday season. And of course I had to get a couple of more FC duckies ^
Probably makes sense, although I did tip one PA 20 euros a few years ago after really exceptional service. She accepted it with thanks.
#38
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: AF Plat, DL Gold
Posts: 366
SFO,
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl.
This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take
3 planes.
When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen
the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ?
BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
I hope you do not mind me asking this question in your TR.
I just returned from my first Trans Pacific trip,ATL-BKK and back. All First and Bus Cl.
This is also the first time I have jet lag and it was bad. I am almost 70. Also had to take
3 planes.
When you go RTW is jet lag ever an issue for you ? Do you ever do anything to lessen
the effects of Jetlag or because you fly so much it is not a factor ?
BTW, I am also a big fan and read all your TRs.
On this trip, i slept more than SFO777 but he seemed less affected by the time zones. I definitely had to rally a few times. i guess that's why he's a legend in our hobby
#39
#41
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bargara Australia
Programs: VA, SQ, IHG, HH,ALL, Europcar
Posts: 1,530
Well from SYD to DPS there is VA and JQ or GA.
JQ you just would not fly.
VA I would due to loyalty programs BUT they normally charge more that GA BUT only offer what we know of as domestic J and its not a lie flat seat.
GA has a great product plenty of J seats on the A330 and awesome service.
Regarding the US service I have heard that the flight will most likely be an add on from NRT or HND - I am pretty certain I saw DOT approval for that a few months back.
There is a new terminal at DPS - which is awesome - compared to the hell hole it was for years. It does have a couple of issues, one is the security check prior to entering the terminal, tickets are checked and bags xrayed - I knew people travelling last night (sat 11/09), who said it took 1 hr to get into the check in area - and others have reported delays of up to 2 hrs. With a big bank of flights to Australia Europe and Singapore going between 2100 and 2400 its a problem.
Then there is check in - which is pretty good - the fiscal check to make sure you paid the departure tax, security, then immigration (with no express lanes) CGK has express lanes. Then once you get to your gate there is another hand search of baggage, so it takes forever.
JQ you just would not fly.
VA I would due to loyalty programs BUT they normally charge more that GA BUT only offer what we know of as domestic J and its not a lie flat seat.
GA has a great product plenty of J seats on the A330 and awesome service.
Regarding the US service I have heard that the flight will most likely be an add on from NRT or HND - I am pretty certain I saw DOT approval for that a few months back.
There is a new terminal at DPS - which is awesome - compared to the hell hole it was for years. It does have a couple of issues, one is the security check prior to entering the terminal, tickets are checked and bags xrayed - I knew people travelling last night (sat 11/09), who said it took 1 hr to get into the check in area - and others have reported delays of up to 2 hrs. With a big bank of flights to Australia Europe and Singapore going between 2100 and 2400 its a problem.
Then there is check in - which is pretty good - the fiscal check to make sure you paid the departure tax, security, then immigration (with no express lanes) CGK has express lanes. Then once you get to your gate there is another hand search of baggage, so it takes forever.
#42
Join Date: Oct 2006
Programs: SQ PPS *G, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 264
Thank you very much for the report SFO777. I've been waiting to hear your take on GA. I cant agree more that GA is amazing and being based in SE Asia, I do fly with them a lot (sometimes taking a detour in order to fly with them). I've never flown GA in F but even in J it does feel like F on other airlines. The amount of personal attention and pampering you get is just amazing. Thank you again for the report!
#44
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
Well from SYD to DPS there is VA and JQ or GA.
JQ you just would not fly.
VA I would due to loyalty programs BUT they normally charge more that GA BUT only offer what we know of as domestic J and its not a lie flat seat.
GA has a great product plenty of J seats on the A330 and awesome service.
Regarding the US service I have heard that the flight will most likely be an add on from NRT or HND - I am pretty certain I saw DOT approval for that a few months back.
There is a new terminal at DPS - which is awesome - compared to the hell hole it was for years. It does have a couple of issues, one is the security check prior to entering the terminal, tickets are checked and bags xrayed - I knew people travelling last night (sat 11/09), who said it took 1 hr to get into the check in area - and others have reported delays of up to 2 hrs. With a big bank of flights to Australia Europe and Singapore going between 2100 and 2400 its a problem.
Then there is check in - which is pretty good - the fiscal check to make sure you paid the departure tax, security, then immigration (with no express lanes) CGK has express lanes. Then once you get to your gate there is another hand search of baggage, so it takes forever.
JQ you just would not fly.
VA I would due to loyalty programs BUT they normally charge more that GA BUT only offer what we know of as domestic J and its not a lie flat seat.
GA has a great product plenty of J seats on the A330 and awesome service.
Regarding the US service I have heard that the flight will most likely be an add on from NRT or HND - I am pretty certain I saw DOT approval for that a few months back.
There is a new terminal at DPS - which is awesome - compared to the hell hole it was for years. It does have a couple of issues, one is the security check prior to entering the terminal, tickets are checked and bags xrayed - I knew people travelling last night (sat 11/09), who said it took 1 hr to get into the check in area - and others have reported delays of up to 2 hrs. With a big bank of flights to Australia Europe and Singapore going between 2100 and 2400 its a problem.
Then there is check in - which is pretty good - the fiscal check to make sure you paid the departure tax, security, then immigration (with no express lanes) CGK has express lanes. Then once you get to your gate there is another hand search of baggage, so it takes forever.
I find GA crew to be in most cases friendlier than SQ staff and much more natural in their approach - reminds me of the good old MH days.
#45
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Geneva, Dubai, Paris
Programs: Disillusioned Cent
Posts: 1,880
Very inspiring TR, SFO777! ^
A F RTW is on my bucket list...
How does the Satellite Terminal 2 First Class Lounge compare to the FCT? Same amenities, same food, better views but a car transfer only for remote stands?
Looking forward to the Garuda installment.
A F RTW is on my bucket list...
How does the Satellite Terminal 2 First Class Lounge compare to the FCT? Same amenities, same food, better views but a car transfer only for remote stands?
Looking forward to the Garuda installment.