European Delivery of a new BMW
Sep 29, 2015, 5:56 pm
#46
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any financing would have the same " paying for it when it's on the boat issue " and for that matter paying cash would mean you also do not have use of the vehicle for that time frame so it's clear there is no advantage or disadvantage to the method of payment - you will pay either way.
Sep 30, 2015, 12:29 pm
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I believe that at one point BMW did pay for your airfare, then they realized that they were becoming a travel agent. Instead, they offered money off in some other fashion. Perhaps that's when they began to credit back one month of the lease payment. At least that's what I heard.
Did you have to take the emergency kit out of the trunk before sending it on the boat? If you're going to cover that, I'll hold my horses
Nice TR! Can't wait to read the rest.
Did you have to take the emergency kit out of the trunk before sending it on the boat? If you're going to cover that, I'll hold my horses
Nice TR! Can't wait to read the rest.
Oct 1, 2015, 11:28 am
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That's really bad advice. Leasing an ED car is typically quite a good deal, given the fact that the residual is calculated based on U.S. MSRP. And BMW forgives one month's payment (although it does add a small ED charge to ED leases).
Each deal will vary based on the money factor and other incentives so there's no blanket answer - including saying "it's not a good idea."
Each deal will vary based on the money factor and other incentives so there's no blanket answer - including saying "it's not a good idea."
Oct 1, 2015, 4:59 pm
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Despite what the dealer says, that amount is negotiable. Oh, be prepared for sob stories, losing money on each ED sale, etc. I negotiated 10% off by writing all sales managers in the Southeast, and took the lowest price. They will deliver to whatever dealer you select.
Oct 1, 2015, 5:45 pm
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Despite what the dealer says, that amount is negotiable. Oh, be prepared for sob stories, losing money on each ED sale, etc. I negotiated 10% off by writing all sales managers in the Southeast, and took the lowest price. They will deliver to whatever dealer you select.
Oct 1, 2015, 7:36 pm
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Oct 1, 2015, 7:38 pm
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Despite what the dealer says, that amount is negotiable. Oh, be prepared for sob stories, losing money on each ED sale, etc. I negotiated 10% off by writing all sales managers in the Southeast, and took the lowest price. They will deliver to whatever dealer you select.
I love getting the line "we have to keep the lights on and pay our sales staff". When they say that I respond, "oh is this dealership financially distressed? Maybe I should go to a fiscally sound dealer"
Oct 1, 2015, 8:05 pm
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Oct 3, 2015, 3:14 pm
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The flight crew was awesome, the FA asked if I wanted some for breakfast, couldn't say no...
Hmmmm.....well, it appears the BMW i3 and i8 are not included in their European delivery program. My observation is based on a quick look at the European delivery section of the BMW website. If you click on the "Get started" button, all of the cars available for European delivery appear, including 2 series, 3 series, 4 series and 5 series as well as Z4, M3, M4 and M5 models. However, the i3 and i8 do not appear. You may want to call BMW directly for clarification.
Thanks about six months into a 24 month lease on an i3 BEV Giga world. First BMW and non-Japanese car for me. Overall less than fully pleased compared to Nissan LEAF and Model S I have driven. Was asking as I was more curious if there was a special tour of the Leipzig plant and tailored route for the EVs limited range.
BMW picks up your second payment, while the car is being shipped back home, you get 7% off the price of the car, others like myself was able to get a total of 10% off the car. So it's a great way to purchase a BMW.
That's really bad advice. Leasing an ED car is typically quite a good deal, given the fact that the residual is calculated based on U.S. MSRP. And BMW forgives one month's payment (although it does add a small ED charge to ED leases).
Each deal will vary based on the money factor and other incentives so there's no blanket answer - including saying "it's not a good idea."
Each deal will vary based on the money factor and other incentives so there's no blanket answer - including saying "it's not a good idea."
any financing would have the same " paying for it when it's on the boat issue " and for that matter paying cash would mean you also do not have use of the vehicle for that time frame so it's clear there is no advantage or disadvantage to the method of payment - you will pay either way.
I believe that at one point BMW did pay for your airfare, then they realized that they were becoming a travel agent. Instead, they offered money off in some other fashion. Perhaps that's when they began to credit back one month of the lease payment. At least that's what I heard.
Did you have to take the emergency kit out of the trunk before sending it on the boat? If you're going to cover that, I'll hold my horses
Nice TR! Can't wait to read the rest.
Did you have to take the emergency kit out of the trunk before sending it on the boat? If you're going to cover that, I'll hold my horses
Nice TR! Can't wait to read the rest.
Just curious: my experience and strategy with my last three cars has been to do so in late January-March when there is minimal traffic and dealers are motivated to move inventory (past cars Lexus HS, Nissan LEAF, and now BMW i3). If you place an order for a vehicle from the factory suffice to say it won't be as aggressive of a deal as a car the dealer has in inventory and eager to move and get off their lot. Sure a marginal order/sale is advantageous to them but I suspect it's as aggressive as something they have on the ground and you're ready to sign and drive away that day.
Despite what the dealer says, that amount is negotiable. Oh, be prepared for sob stories, losing money on each ED sale, etc. I negotiated 10% off by writing all sales managers in the Southeast, and took the lowest price. They will deliver to whatever dealer you select.
Not really, since I had access to the true dealer invoice on my car, I paid $500 over that, the reason why ED prices are lower, the car comes back into the states as a used car.. I love hearing people say, I could always do better...
Oct 3, 2015, 4:33 pm
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Day in Munich
So our free day in munch started off early with Breakfast in the Lounge, have to say this lounge was of the saving graces of this place. I received a message from the hotel since returning saying that starting in Nov, the guest room will be upgraded, nice to know this...
So we took the U-bahn to The Welt, then from The Welt to Marktplatz Rick had broken his glass's and needed to them fix. Now, have to say this, we didn't much prep work on things to do in Munich since we weren't going to be there long, but The Marktplatz is one place you must see, a great way of putting old and new together.. So when we emerged from the U-Bahn station we were slightly over whelmed on what we saw, the beauty of the Gothic buildings, the typical Bavarian buildings with modern building and the amount of people! Here in Phoenix, we have a fairly large Muslim population, but seeing women walking in berka's was different, I can't imagine how hot they much have been, since Rich and I were roasting.. Rick was able to find the optical shop, got his glass's fixed and off we went.
After spend an a couple of hours here we headed back to the hotel to take a shower, a nap then headed out to dinner. One place that is a must is by The Marktplatz, The Hofbrauhaus of Munich, the original one, dating back over 400 yrs. What a treat it was to eat here, this is not your luxury eating place of Munich, but it's something to try once or twice. Basically when you walk in, you go and find a place to sit down, anywhere and with anyone. That was the treat of the place, we sat down next to 4 guys, and come to find out they all work for BMW, so it was interesting to chat with them about cars. The food is simple Bavarian but it was excellent, so was the beer! If you go sit outside, inside was hot and stuffy..
Pork Roast with a spongy potato and salad, Rick inhaled this as it was excellent.
Roasted 1/2 chicken, German potato salad and spaetzle. Just like Rick's it was excellent, moist check, crunchy skin.. Couldn't have asked for a better dinner. The company was great, spent about 3 hours there just talking, an interesting thing about the Europeans, there is no rush to eat dinner, and there is no rush from the restaurant or cafe to get you out, a nice relaxing dinner.
So we took the U-bahn to The Welt, then from The Welt to Marktplatz Rick had broken his glass's and needed to them fix. Now, have to say this, we didn't much prep work on things to do in Munich since we weren't going to be there long, but The Marktplatz is one place you must see, a great way of putting old and new together.. So when we emerged from the U-Bahn station we were slightly over whelmed on what we saw, the beauty of the Gothic buildings, the typical Bavarian buildings with modern building and the amount of people! Here in Phoenix, we have a fairly large Muslim population, but seeing women walking in berka's was different, I can't imagine how hot they much have been, since Rich and I were roasting.. Rick was able to find the optical shop, got his glass's fixed and off we went.
After spend an a couple of hours here we headed back to the hotel to take a shower, a nap then headed out to dinner. One place that is a must is by The Marktplatz, The Hofbrauhaus of Munich, the original one, dating back over 400 yrs. What a treat it was to eat here, this is not your luxury eating place of Munich, but it's something to try once or twice. Basically when you walk in, you go and find a place to sit down, anywhere and with anyone. That was the treat of the place, we sat down next to 4 guys, and come to find out they all work for BMW, so it was interesting to chat with them about cars. The food is simple Bavarian but it was excellent, so was the beer! If you go sit outside, inside was hot and stuffy..
Pork Roast with a spongy potato and salad, Rick inhaled this as it was excellent.
Roasted 1/2 chicken, German potato salad and spaetzle. Just like Rick's it was excellent, moist check, crunchy skin.. Couldn't have asked for a better dinner. The company was great, spent about 3 hours there just talking, an interesting thing about the Europeans, there is no rush to eat dinner, and there is no rush from the restaurant or cafe to get you out, a nice relaxing dinner.
