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Old May 23, 07, 2:48 pm   #1
 
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Question Barefoot airline passengers -- is it against any rules?

Boarding a flight this weekend, I noticed a woman in front of us who was dressed in sort of luau/beach attire....wearing NO SHOES Once we settled into our seats, I was further surprised to find that she was seated in the emergency exit row!

She didn't REMOVE her shoes....she NEVER WORE ANY. In fact, after we landed and collected our luggage and proceeded outside to the rental car shuttle sign....she ended up asking me where to catch a shuttle. She had an Australian accent and I could see that her feet were sunburned. Even though this was the asphalt and it was late at night, she was STILL barefoot...

As far as health or sanitary precations, it's obviously a bad idea to walk around airports and planes without shoes. (IMHO) it's a terrible idea from a safety perspective also.

Do airlines have rules against this? The whole time I kept wondering if there were rules against this and if I should have brought it to the attention of a FA?
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Old May 23, 07, 3:16 pm   #2
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Do airlines have rules against this? The whole time I kept wondering if there were rules against this and if I should have brought it to the attention of a FA?
Yes, many airlines do reserve the right to refuse carriage in cases such as these, for example:

CO:
CO shall have the right to refuse to transport or shall have the right to remove from the aircraft at any point, any
Passenger for the following reasons: [..]

Safety Whenever refusal or removal of a Passenger may be necessary for the safety of such Passenger or other
Passengers or members of the crew, including, but not limited to: [..]

5) Persons who are barefoot or not properly clothed;
AS:
AS may refuse to transport, or may remove at any point, any passenger: [..]

E. Comfort and Safety
  1. Who fails or refuses to comply with AS's rules and regulations.
  2. In the following categories where in AS's sole judgment refusal or removal may be necessary for the comfort and safety of themselves or other passengers: [..]
    b. Persons who are barefoot or who have uncovered torsos, except the midriff, which may be uncovered.

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Old May 23, 07, 3:30 pm   #3
 
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There are many cultures where walking barefoot is still the norm.

There are people who walk barefoot as a lifestyle choice (I used to know a "barefoot by choice" person - she was a perfectly normal person in all other respects, and she explained to me that when you walk barefoot all the time then the soles of your feet become like the soles of your shoes).

Like for everything there is a web site for people who choose to walk barefoot:

http://www.barefooters.org/

Just because it's not the norm in Western Europe or North America doesn't mean there is anything strange, gross or offensive about it.
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Old May 23, 07, 3:36 pm   #4
 
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Just because it's not the norm in Western Europe or North America doesn't mean there is anything strange, gross or offensive about it.
Nor did I intend to label it as such. It just struck me as very unusual in an airport and on a plane and I thought it might be unsafe in case of emergency.
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Old May 23, 07, 6:28 pm   #5
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DFW-SEA on AA last Saturday, an FA dropped and broke a glass in the F galley as I was heading for the lav. They tried to clean up the pieces (at last - a good use for those safety instruction cards!) but chances are they didn't get every tiny bit. One of them said to me "that's why you never walk through the galley barefoot."

Aside from that, the lav is used by lots of guys standing up while the airplane bounces around. When the airplane bounces, guess what else does. I wouldn't want to be barefoot in there, either.

(BTW, what's with the blue and purple type? Makes things harder to read.)
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Old May 23, 07, 6:33 pm   #6
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Much previous discussion here:

Barefoot on the plane

Feet [gross]--rant!

Rude to put feet on bulkhead wall?

Morons Who Insist on Putting Their Smelly-Arsed Feet on the Bulkhead Wall

Is Using the Wall in Front of the Bulkhead seats to prop your feet on rude?
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What is ironic is that when they go through security, they are provided shoes and are forced to wear them.
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Many years ago I was in Clipper Class on a Pan Am flight and the flight attendant advised a barefooted passenger that he had to put on footwear or she wouldn't be able to begin the meal service.
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It seems to me the health/safety concern just applies to the person themselves. The airline may be concerned, as they don't want to be liable for any injury such as from broken glass.

However, I don't see any risk to other passengers beyond athlete's foot, and that won't affect you if you keep your own shoes on. They aren't going to track anything in on their bare feet that doesn't get tracked in on shoes.

There's also the aesthetic issues: odor, and other ickyness from people that aren't clean or have a skin disorder, but these aren't really a safety issue.
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Feet [gross]--rant!

this thread tells us why it is disgusting

I am curious. If the rules tell you person who go barefoot could be removed, then what about once on the plane? Can they like toss you a parachute and say bye bye?

And oh, BTW, Parachute companies have the least number of customer complaints!


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I am curious. If the rules tell you person who go barefoot could be removed, then what about once on the plane?
I think CO's rules are pretty clear :

"CO shall have the right to refuse to transport or shall have the right to remove from the aircraft at any point, any Passenger for the following reasons:"
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b. except the midriff, which may be uncovered.
Excellent exception! Could we have a couple more....?
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I think CO's rules are pretty clear :

"CO shall have the right to refuse to transport or shall have the right to remove from the aircraft at any point, any Passenger for the following reasons:"
Do they provide parachutes?


And I thought it was impossible in flight since D. B. Cooper, anyway.
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Old May 23, 07, 10:44 pm   #15
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Do they provide parachutes?
No, but you can bring your own : http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...ge/sports.aspx
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