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Aborted landings. How common are pull-ups?

Aborted landings. How common are pull-ups?

Old Mar 4, 2007, 10:58 am
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Aborted landings. How common are pull-ups?

Yesterday on the Chicago to Frankfurt 10pm Lufthansa flight on an Airbus 340 the captain (or 340 automation?) pulled up and announced strong windshear.

We did land the second time. The second attempt was much smoother (manual?) As I had time to kill between flights I went to a window to observe other landings.

Within 2 hours a total of 3 flights aborted their landing while already above the runway.

How common is this?
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:01 am
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In over 500 flights, I have had 1 go-around.

(Due to pilot error - which he admitted - ulp!)
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:29 am
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I had one, it was last year on TED into LAS. The fancy flying nearly caused me to vomit.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:59 am
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They are usually weather related or a runway problem like debris or another plane on runway. Last October, my plane and a bad weather front arrived at the same time and visibility disappeared in minutes. We made one attempt to land, pulled up and tried again before landing at an airport 100 miles away.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 12:16 pm
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I've definitely experienced more than one, and I haven't been on anywhere like 500 flights. Once we went around twice, I'm trying to remember where and why. I suppose it will come back to me.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 12:20 pm
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I've had four in approx. 1500 landings.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 12:56 pm
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Flew 220K last year and did not have one aborted landing.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 12:58 pm
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6 times for me:

IAH (weather), ex-EWR, landed on 2nd attempt
HNL (military aircraft cut in front of us), ex-HND, landed on 2nd attempt
LAX (weather), lex-SAN, landed on 2nd attempt
MXP (weather), ex-LAX, diverted to GOA
TPE (weather), ex-LAX, diverted to KHH
PHX (preceding aircraft did not exit runway fast enough), ex-ONT, landed on 2nd attempt
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 1:01 pm
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Well over 1MM BIS and only one missed approach, never a go around. ATC@PHL scewed that one up.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 1:29 pm
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Welcome to Flyer Talk trauha

Aborted landings are reasonably common - I've experienced several. Just yesterday I saw one while sitting in an airport lounge, in good weather and no a/c on the runways or taxiways.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 2:23 pm
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When the conditions are like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4jeEfhBiE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0

Both are notorious airports for aborted landings.

And of course, the classic Pilot Induced Oscillation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMageU9lng
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 3:01 pm
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I seem to have a significantly higher ratio of aborted landings than anybody else. It seems to happen fairly regularly when I fly.

Spokane (GEG) on United, St. Louis and Albuquerque on American. I really do not remember all of them but I do remember the most significant was Air France going into Paris (CDG) on a transAtlantic. Interior aisle seat on the 777, dense fog in Paris, aborted the landing twice, finally landed in DENSE fog on the third try, it was a little less comfortable because I wasn't near the window.

Typically it is an aircraft that simply hasn't cleared the runway yet and the pilot makes the call to abort the landing before the critical stage (odds are the aircraft would have cleared the runway before the plane touched down but better safe than sorry). St. Louis, Paris, and Spokane were weather related, all the others (many of which I don't remember) were simply the matter stated above, no need to feel uncomfortable.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 3:52 pm
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Had three (3) inside of a month's time a few years back. Started to make me nervous.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 4:12 pm
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I've had 2 in about 1.5 million-plus miles. One serious and scary, one surprising but no big deal.
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Old Mar 4, 2007, 4:16 pm
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~350 segments, zero aborted landings as a pax thus far fortunately, though I have witnessed quite a few as an aviation enthusiast watching from the ground...
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