Aborted landings. How common are pull-ups?
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It is said that the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.
It isn't an aborted landing or a "pull up", it's a go-around, in visual conditions, or a missed approach, in instrument conditions.
While we're at it...
Takeoffs are aborted.
The left side of the airplane is called the left and the right side of the airplane is called the right.
The airplanes wait on the taxiway or ramp, not the runway.
The pavement on which the airplanes park is called the ramp (apron in Canada).
It isn't an aborted landing or a "pull up", it's a go-around, in visual conditions, or a missed approach, in instrument conditions.
While we're at it...
Takeoffs are aborted.
The left side of the airplane is called the left and the right side of the airplane is called the right.
The airplanes wait on the taxiway or ramp, not the runway.
The pavement on which the airplanes park is called the ramp (apron in Canada).
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I have had ~1000 landings. Up until last month, one aborted landing. Very smooth, most didn't even notice until the captain said something. A couple of weeks ago, we were not very far off the runway at all and we pulled out of it. We went into a seriously high angle of attack and I was mildly worried about stalling. The captain explained that the winds had shifted and the airport had been reconfigured for a different runway.
Then, just last Friday, on a very rough ride (very high winds) into CVG we pulled out. Again, this was pretty dramatic and everyone knew that we had aborted. The captain explained that someone was on our runway. Honestly, I am not sure if I believe him. I think we were way above the glide scope as I wasn't sure we could have got down had we wanted to. When we did land, it was pretty interesting. So, 1 in 8+ years and 2 in 1 month.
Then, just last Friday, on a very rough ride (very high winds) into CVG we pulled out. Again, this was pretty dramatic and everyone knew that we had aborted. The captain explained that someone was on our runway. Honestly, I am not sure if I believe him. I think we were way above the glide scope as I wasn't sure we could have got down had we wanted to. When we did land, it was pretty interesting. So, 1 in 8+ years and 2 in 1 month.
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I'm about 1 per every 75 segments. One last year for me was at OAK when we came down below the cloud cover and there was no airport in sight and the water was looking quite close. The other last year for me was at LAX, we had crossed the 405 and then did a hard pull up as there was another plane on the runway.
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I've had about 8 go arounds in the past 10 years, all at DEN.
I recently asked a UA 777 pilot friend about it and he explained that DEN is a high go around airport for two reasons. 1) strong winds coming of the mountains which switch direction frequently and 2) approach speed for planes nationwide is 250 kts once at 10,000 feet, 10,000 feet in Denver is actually 4720 feet, due to airport elevation, so you are coming in fast.
My wife actually had 3 go arounds on the same plane, DC-10, at ORD in 1999 during a t-storm. They landed on the 4th try. (Alternate airports, MKE, and STL were in storms also).
They don't really bother me too much, unless I'm on a tight connection.
I recently asked a UA 777 pilot friend about it and he explained that DEN is a high go around airport for two reasons. 1) strong winds coming of the mountains which switch direction frequently and 2) approach speed for planes nationwide is 250 kts once at 10,000 feet, 10,000 feet in Denver is actually 4720 feet, due to airport elevation, so you are coming in fast.
My wife actually had 3 go arounds on the same plane, DC-10, at ORD in 1999 during a t-storm. They landed on the 4th try. (Alternate airports, MKE, and STL were in storms also).
They don't really bother me too much, unless I'm on a tight connection.
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Once on a CO flight, RIC-EWR. Not sure of the reason or the actual aircraft type, but it was a small regional jet in seemingly clear weather. The only part I really remember was the sharply banked turn in order to come around for the second try.
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I have had three in all of the years I have flown. Once on a UA LAX to JFK a problem occured with landing gear not down all the way. Just annoying as its another 20-30 minutes doing a loop and back down.
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The ground speed is higher landing at a high-elevation airport because of the lower density of the air. The airspeed is the same as at lower-elevation airports but that same 140kts, for example, produces a higher ground speed at higher-elevation airports. 140kts at sea-level would be 154kts at 5,500'.
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For me it has only been once so far, a very long time ago at NRT on a PanAm 747. Captain Bob announced he had overshot the runway and we were going around. The engines were screaming trying to gain altitude. I'll never forget that.
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If the voices are a little shaky, its because when we do a go-around, its all elbows and @ssholes in the cockpit. Even though we train every year to do a go-around, it is still an abnormal condtion and things become very hurried. So if you hear a shaky voice its because we (the capt or the f/o) remembered to pick up the mike and say something over the PA, not because we a scared
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Originally Posted by [B
Pat89339[/B];7348587]For me it has only been once so far, a very long time ago at NRT on a PanAm 747. Captain Bob announced he had overshot the runway and we were going around. The engines were screaming trying to gain altitude. I'll never forget that.