Aborted landings. How common are pull-ups?
#16
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Had one a couple of years ago into LGW I believe. When we finally landed, there was another large airliner that looked like it had been pulled off the runway between two landing strips. I was very glad for the go-around. There were no announcements, but I'm sure that disabled plane was the cause. (I would identify the type if I was as knowledgable as many of you.)
#18
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I've had two aborted landings in several hundred flights.
Cubana at London Gatwick, off centre and missed the runway so did a go-round.
Air France, Paris CDG did a go-round don't know why.
I've also been on an Japan Airlines 747-400 at Heathrow which aborted a takeoff about 15 seconds into the takeoff roll. "Ahhh. Air traffic control say nogo. We try again". That is a bit of a fright because the plane shudders to a halt with the engines still screaming.
I've also had an aborted takeoff on a light aircraft, that was because there was a 4 wheel drive vehicle driving up the bit of beach we were using for a runway.
Cubana at London Gatwick, off centre and missed the runway so did a go-round.
Air France, Paris CDG did a go-round don't know why.
I've also been on an Japan Airlines 747-400 at Heathrow which aborted a takeoff about 15 seconds into the takeoff roll. "Ahhh. Air traffic control say nogo. We try again". That is a bit of a fright because the plane shudders to a halt with the engines still screaming.
I've also had an aborted takeoff on a light aircraft, that was because there was a 4 wheel drive vehicle driving up the bit of beach we were using for a runway.
#19
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They're neither rare nor, generally, dangerous. I get one every couple
years maybe; the last was into SFO, where the pilot said (after the
missed - didn't say anything during) that someone had been slow
crossing the runway.
years maybe; the last was into SFO, where the pilot said (after the
missed - didn't say anything during) that someone had been slow
crossing the runway.
#21
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I've had three aborted landings, but only one counts as a pull-up:
Summer of 1988, HP flight into San Diego on a 737. 1st attempt, we were about 200 feet above the runway, pulled up and went around to land. Was not really scarry, everyone just kind of rolled with it.
May 2006, AA flight DFW into SNA on a 737. We got down to about 1,500 ft and didn't land due to aircraft unable to retract flaps/configuration. We were diverted to LAX with full force emergency crew greeting. No big deal to me, I'm not sure how I'd feel about a "touch and go" into SNA, it's just such a short runway. Other pax were griping about it though.
Just last week AA flight SFO into HNL on a 763 (NGBC). We got down to about 1,000 ft and didn't land due to reports of debris on our runway. Funny thing was when we did land on another runway, there was a small emergency crew on our runway.
Summer of 1988, HP flight into San Diego on a 737. 1st attempt, we were about 200 feet above the runway, pulled up and went around to land. Was not really scarry, everyone just kind of rolled with it.
May 2006, AA flight DFW into SNA on a 737. We got down to about 1,500 ft and didn't land due to aircraft unable to retract flaps/configuration. We were diverted to LAX with full force emergency crew greeting. No big deal to me, I'm not sure how I'd feel about a "touch and go" into SNA, it's just such a short runway. Other pax were griping about it though.
Just last week AA flight SFO into HNL on a 763 (NGBC). We got down to about 1,000 ft and didn't land due to reports of debris on our runway. Funny thing was when we did land on another runway, there was a small emergency crew on our runway.
#23
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over 1mm between various carriers (600k on DL + partners)...
3 aborted landings - 2 due to other aircraft in the way; 1 unexplained ( )
2 aborted takeoffs - full-on, charge-down-runway-then-stop; both were due to warning lights in the cockpit. We eventually few out on one; the other was cancelled.
3 aborted landings - 2 due to other aircraft in the way; 1 unexplained ( )
2 aborted takeoffs - full-on, charge-down-runway-then-stop; both were due to warning lights in the cockpit. We eventually few out on one; the other was cancelled.
#24
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got some statistics
Looked at the weather conditions in Frankfurt that day. Wind gusting to almost 45 knots.
Googled some numbers: Frequency of go arounds is about 1 in 1000 to 1 in 4000 depending on airport. That steep full power climb indeed felt reassuring. Feeling that constant power instead of the random weather gusts.
The announcements by stewardess and captain alike were in slightly shaky voices. It was hairy enough for many passengers to vomit.
Tapani
Googled some numbers: Frequency of go arounds is about 1 in 1000 to 1 in 4000 depending on airport. That steep full power climb indeed felt reassuring. Feeling that constant power instead of the random weather gusts.
The announcements by stewardess and captain alike were in slightly shaky voices. It was hairy enough for many passengers to vomit.
Tapani
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When the conditions are like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4jeEfhBiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0
Both are notorious airports for aborted landings.
And of course, the classic Pilot Induced Oscillation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMageU9lng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4jeEfhBiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0
Both are notorious airports for aborted landings.
And of course, the classic Pilot Induced Oscillation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMageU9lng
Had one aborted landing at NCL due to snow in maybe 50 flights. Captain told us to look out of the windows, which we did, to see a total whiteout. Circled the north sea for 20mins and landed without problems.
Had a few drawn-out bumpy landings that I would rather have had aborted though
#26
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None so far, despite having flown twice weekly since last July. That said, I felt like one was coming today - the poor F50 was being blown all over the place on approach to AMS, and we landed on one wheel, then the other, then both...
#27
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When the conditions are like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4jeEfhBiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0
Both are notorious airports for aborted landings.
And of course, the classic Pilot Induced Oscillation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMageU9lng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4jeEfhBiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0
Both are notorious airports for aborted landings.
And of course, the classic Pilot Induced Oscillation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMageU9lng
The inter island flights in Hawaii can be really scary. Even coming into OGG on a 767 is really bumpy.
#28
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I’ve only had one and that was going into ORD from DFW. I believe it was due to traffic on the runway they said. Worked out fine in the long run but I would definitely prefer to not experience it again any time soon!!!
#29
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I've had two, both on Continental and both landing at IAH. First was missed approach and second was because there was still a plane on the runway we were to land on.
I haven't flown Cointinental since.
I haven't flown Cointinental since.
#30
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A very rough estimate for commercial flights is something between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1,000 from a stabilised final approach to the runway. It is variable mainly by weather encountered, and also by location.
London Heathrow airport averages one a day. Sometimes none for a week, sometimes several in a day.
It is almost always unconnected with the airline; any carrier would normally have done the same thing from the same point in their approach.
I don't know why some get so worked up about them.
London Heathrow airport averages one a day. Sometimes none for a week, sometimes several in a day.
It is almost always unconnected with the airline; any carrier would normally have done the same thing from the same point in their approach.
I don't know why some get so worked up about them.