What Airlines has the oldest and most rundown planes?
Dec 31, 2006, 9:02 pm
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Generally, US carriers sell their a/c to thirld-world countries. Take Russia, for example. 'S7' aka Sibir' airlines bought a whole bunch of ex-Delta, ex-PanAm A-310s. They had a few incidents with them recently (one crashed). From what I have read, Russia's airlines use them and then sell the planes to Iran and Afghanisan..... so basically there's a third world market for fourth-world airplanes 
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Jan 1, 2007, 6:42 am
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My money's on Air Koryo, the state airline of North Korea and one of only two airlines on the planet with a one-star Skytrax ranking. 100% Soviet fleet, newest aircraft made in 1986 (and reserved for government use), oldest in 1966 (!). Their scheduled flights operate mostly with Tu-154Bs, all built in 1975-77.
Jan 1, 2007, 2:05 pm
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Generally, US carriers sell their a/c to thirld-world countries. Take Russia, for example. 'S7' aka Sibir' airlines bought a whole bunch of ex-Delta, ex-PanAm A-310s. They had a few incidents with them recently (one crashed). From what I have read, Russia's airlines use them and then sell the planes to Iran and Afghanisan..... so basically there's a third world market for fourth-world airplanes .
.S7 does have some old planes. They've redone the insides a bit though. That helps a little. Aeroflot has really spiffed up the inside of theirs the last few years. The really bad ones are the former SU cast offs that never really "made it" as well known carriers (Dalavia, UTAir, etc.) that are indeed flying fourth-world airplanes.
The even smaller Russian companies that fly ЯК-40s, Antonovs of all sorts and the like are truly other worldly. A friend of mine lives in the far north of Russia and depends on these things to get to and from civilization. So far, so good.
Jan 1, 2007, 2:36 pm
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Buffalo Airways here in northern Canada still flies DC-3's that date back to the 1930's. They are in excellent condition, considering their age.
http://www.buffaloairways.com/fleet.htm
http://www.buffaloairways.com/fleet.htm
Jan 1, 2007, 6:32 pm
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They do? I have never seen a CZ Antonov, infact CZ has a pretty young fleet average age 6.6 years.
Air Koryo definatley does not deserve a 1 star rating. It's planes maybe old but that is all, they are immaculately maintained on the inside and the service and food (quantity and quality) would blow most North American/European short haul airlines out of the water. The only thing is the seat pitch in really lousy....and I mean really lousy I would say around 21 inches.
Oh and they almost exclusively use IL-62's for their PEK-FNJ, FNJ-BKK, FNJ-SHE flights. Those Tupolevs are used for internal flights, which unsurprisingly are often cancelled due to lack of passengers.
My money's on Air Koryo, the state airline of North Korea and one of only two airlines on the planet with a one-star Skytrax ranking. 100% Soviet fleet, newest aircraft made in 1986 (and reserved for government use), oldest in 1966 (!). Their scheduled flights operate mostly with Tu-154Bs, all built in 1975-77.
Oh and they almost exclusively use IL-62's for their PEK-FNJ, FNJ-BKK, FNJ-SHE flights. Those Tupolevs are used for internal flights, which unsurprisingly are often cancelled due to lack of passengers.
Jan 1, 2007, 6:48 pm
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Of the majors, I think NW has the oldest average. Aloha probably has the oldest planes of any sizeable commercial carrier in the US.
I flew an 737-200 interisland a few years ago and was glad I didnt die. I knew how old it was.
I flew an 737-200 interisland a few years ago and was glad I didnt die. I knew how old it was.
Jan 1, 2007, 7:12 pm
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'Tis fun, though, don't you think?
Jan 1, 2007, 7:39 pm
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"Still around!" TWA, Republic, Ozark
A few years back, American Airlines acquired TWA, which earlier had acquired Ozark Airlines. American Airlines appears still to be flying many of the TWA aircraft, which already were old even when TWA flew them. Unfortunately, American didn't take on the brand new 717's that TWA had just purchased before the take-over. So, instead, we get to fly regional jets.
Northwest Airlines once acquired Republic Airlines, which at one point had acquired Southern Airways. Bad enough that we're still boarding the old DC-9's of the Republic fleet but let's HOPE we're not currently flying on Southern Airway's old machines!
Northwest Airlines once acquired Republic Airlines, which at one point had acquired Southern Airways. Bad enough that we're still boarding the old DC-9's of the Republic fleet but let's HOPE we're not currently flying on Southern Airway's old machines!
Jan 1, 2007, 8:43 pm
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Perhaps Ariana Afghan Airlines, planes were gifted to Ariana by Air India after it stopped being economically viable to fly them.
As an SU traveler (Aeroflot), their entire A319/20/21 fleet is brand new off the line in Toulouse, their B767-300ER fleet is quite young as well, much much younger fleet then ANY of North American airlines. TU-154's used on some domestic routes are all 154M models, which is the latest in production as well.
As an SU traveler (Aeroflot), their entire A319/20/21 fleet is brand new off the line in Toulouse, their B767-300ER fleet is quite young as well, much much younger fleet then ANY of North American airlines. TU-154's used on some domestic routes are all 154M models, which is the latest in production as well.
Must be Air Canada
Jan 1, 2007, 9:47 pm
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Of course these numbers are deceptive. I flew on a Continental 757-200 last week (EWR-LGW) that was desperately in need of an overhaul or replacement.