Common Tourism Scams
#421
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: AA Gold, Enterprise PLT, Marriott Gold
Posts: 604
Nothing too bad yet.
Only place I was really annoyed was Paris. We went in February and it was their down time of year it seems. I am 6'4 and pretty slim and look pretty American I guess, so essentially anywhere I travel I stick out. A simple but firm "No" with a quick shake of the head would disband any insisting scammer or trickster. It was nonstop in Paris, couldn't go 1 minute around a main attraction without being hounded. Really frustrated me as the police could care less. These weren't simple street artists and people making things, it was definitely scam artists. Mostly the annoying "sign this petition" people and people intentionally blocking our paths trying to sell us knockoff crap. I can tolerate people trying to persuade me from the side to come over as I just ignore it or at times politely decline, but when you try and stop me from walking, I am not so polite in return.
Work well for the gypsies in Italy too. A firm no and shake of the head and they were gone. I would watch as other people would be overly polite and decline and make excuses as the gypsies would keep pestering. Anytime they approached me and I said "No", they would be off to a new target in seconds.
Only place I was really annoyed was Paris. We went in February and it was their down time of year it seems. I am 6'4 and pretty slim and look pretty American I guess, so essentially anywhere I travel I stick out. A simple but firm "No" with a quick shake of the head would disband any insisting scammer or trickster. It was nonstop in Paris, couldn't go 1 minute around a main attraction without being hounded. Really frustrated me as the police could care less. These weren't simple street artists and people making things, it was definitely scam artists. Mostly the annoying "sign this petition" people and people intentionally blocking our paths trying to sell us knockoff crap. I can tolerate people trying to persuade me from the side to come over as I just ignore it or at times politely decline, but when you try and stop me from walking, I am not so polite in return.
Work well for the gypsies in Italy too. A firm no and shake of the head and they were gone. I would watch as other people would be overly polite and decline and make excuses as the gypsies would keep pestering. Anytime they approached me and I said "No", they would be off to a new target in seconds.
#422
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
I'm glad the N-word ("No!") worked well for you in France in Italy. When I've traveled in Hong Kong and mainland China it has not. Touts, knock-off sellers, and scammers are not deterred. Even walking past them does little good. They're so insistent they'll walk along with you repeatedly re-offering the stuff you've already barked "No!" to.
#423
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: YYZ (ex-LHR)
Programs: BA Silver, VS Red, OZ Silver
Posts: 446
Nothing too bad yet.
Only place I was really annoyed was Paris. We went in February and it was their down time of year it seems. I am 6'4 and pretty slim and look pretty American I guess, so essentially anywhere I travel I stick out. A simple but firm "No" with a quick shake of the head would disband any insisting scammer or trickster. It was nonstop in Paris, couldn't go 1 minute around a main attraction without being hounded. Really frustrated me as the police could care less. These weren't simple street artists and people making things, it was definitely scam artists. Mostly the annoying "sign this petition" people and people intentionally blocking our paths trying to sell us knockoff crap. I can tolerate people trying to persuade me from the side to come over as I just ignore it or at times politely decline, but when you try and stop me from walking, I am not so polite in return.
Work well for the gypsies in Italy too. A firm no and shake of the head and they were gone. I would watch as other people would be overly polite and decline and make excuses as the gypsies would keep pestering. Anytime they approached me and I said "No", they would be off to a new target in seconds.
Only place I was really annoyed was Paris. We went in February and it was their down time of year it seems. I am 6'4 and pretty slim and look pretty American I guess, so essentially anywhere I travel I stick out. A simple but firm "No" with a quick shake of the head would disband any insisting scammer or trickster. It was nonstop in Paris, couldn't go 1 minute around a main attraction without being hounded. Really frustrated me as the police could care less. These weren't simple street artists and people making things, it was definitely scam artists. Mostly the annoying "sign this petition" people and people intentionally blocking our paths trying to sell us knockoff crap. I can tolerate people trying to persuade me from the side to come over as I just ignore it or at times politely decline, but when you try and stop me from walking, I am not so polite in return.
Work well for the gypsies in Italy too. A firm no and shake of the head and they were gone. I would watch as other people would be overly polite and decline and make excuses as the gypsies would keep pestering. Anytime they approached me and I said "No", they would be off to a new target in seconds.
#424
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 416
The 'sign this petition' thing you noticed in Paris is a pickpocketing scam. Myself and a friend were hounded in Paris (also observed it in a few other European cities). We were left alone once it was obvious we knew what it was, but the first few occasions they were physically blocking our path, using the clipboard as a barrier while they tried to get hands into pockets.
#425
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Explat, SPG Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 56
I was walking around Jakarta and was approached by an Indonesian who I told that I was American. He quickly became excited and tried to get me to follow him to "the Obama school." Some scam that must have been, I immediately walked away. I understand the appeal of American tourist-buzz-words, but "the Obama school" was surely the least creative thing I had ever heard to trick an American into going somewhere that clearly was a fraud.
Needless to say I regretted everything above following a much-needed history lesson back in the US
Needless to say I regretted everything above following a much-needed history lesson back in the US
#426
I was walking around Jakarta and was approached by an Indonesian who I told that I was American. He quickly became excited and tried to get me to follow him to "the Obama school." Some scam that must have been, I immediately walked away. I understand the appeal of American tourist-buzz-words, but "the Obama school" was surely the least creative thing I had ever heard to trick an American into going somewhere that clearly was a fraud.
Needless to say I regretted everything above following a much-needed history lesson back in the US
Needless to say I regretted everything above following a much-needed history lesson back in the US
#427
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,808
My trick is to pretend not to speak English. I cough out some germanic sounding gibberish or pigeon Danish and they don't even bother. It's worked well in Spain and Brazil. The aggressive beggar in Spain was not convinced that I didn't speak English, but I stuck to it and he moved on.
If they cannot engage you, you don't even have to worry about being impolite let alone scammed.
If they cannot engage you, you don't even have to worry about being impolite let alone scammed.
#428
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
That works reasonably well when you're traveling by yourself. It basically doesn't work when you're traveling with anyone else because the beggars/scammers/shills can observe you speaking English (or whatever language they can beg/scam/shill in) with your companions.
#429
Moderator: UK and Ireland & Europe
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Biggleswade
Programs: SK*G, Lots of Blue Elsewhere
Posts: 13,611
That works reasonably well when you're traveling by yourself. It basically doesn't work when you're traveling with anyone else because the beggars/scammers/shills can observe you speaking English (or whatever language they can beg/scam/shill in) with your companions.
#430
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tainan, Taiwan
Posts: 14,702
That works reasonably well when you're traveling by yourself. It basically doesn't work when you're traveling with anyone else because the beggars/scammers/shills can observe you speaking English (or whatever language they can beg/scam/shill in) with your companions.
#432
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: AA Gold, Enterprise PLT, Marriott Gold
Posts: 604
Not sure it's so much of a scam, but kind of seems like one and I have seen it many times in NY. I'm sure many of you have seen it too.
There will be a few guys and they will have a group of people lined up single file about 5 or so. They usually have bull horns, and they make some reference to "you can escape if you donate $20 dollars" and then they usually put them on the spot with a good 50 people watching and tell them it's all going to some relief fund. This past time it was Hurricane Matthew victims and the time before it was Paris. Then if you decline or don't donate fast enough, they ask about whoever you're with and put them on the spot to donate. I noticed they love to do this with foreigners. They essentially shame you and peer pressure you into donating, because who wants to say no to donating money to "Paris relief fund" when hounded to in front of 50 people staring at you and recording? I highly doubt all or any of that money goes to the charity and not their pockets but I suppose I could be wrong.
There will be a few guys and they will have a group of people lined up single file about 5 or so. They usually have bull horns, and they make some reference to "you can escape if you donate $20 dollars" and then they usually put them on the spot with a good 50 people watching and tell them it's all going to some relief fund. This past time it was Hurricane Matthew victims and the time before it was Paris. Then if you decline or don't donate fast enough, they ask about whoever you're with and put them on the spot to donate. I noticed they love to do this with foreigners. They essentially shame you and peer pressure you into donating, because who wants to say no to donating money to "Paris relief fund" when hounded to in front of 50 people staring at you and recording? I highly doubt all or any of that money goes to the charity and not their pockets but I suppose I could be wrong.
#433
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: GVA
Programs: QR Silver, Accor Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 33
So if you approach me, I would have to be suspicious of you, if I follow your advice. Kind of a dog biting his own tail.
#434
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
#435
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 1,257
My trick is to pretend not to speak English. I cough out some germanic sounding gibberish or pigeon Danish and they don't even bother. It's worked well in Spain and Brazil. The aggressive beggar in Spain was not convinced that I didn't speak English, but I stuck to it and he moved on.
If they cannot engage you, you don't even have to worry about being impolite let alone scammed.
If they cannot engage you, you don't even have to worry about being impolite let alone scammed.