FCC to Allow Wireless Access on Planes
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FCC to Allow Wireless Access on Planes
I am sure a lot of you (me included) cannot wait for this day to be here
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._air_travelers
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._air_travelers
#2
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I, for one, dread this day.
Several hundred people stuck in a very small space for many hours with many of these people obliviously talking at louder-than-normal conversational levels to phantoms in the ether. Not that everybody is inconsiderate of others when talking on a cell phone, but there does seem to be something of "I'm not here, I'm in my own world" when talking on a cell phone.
So count me out of those looking forward to the day.
How do others feel?
Is this a "good thing" or a "not good thing"?
Or is there a more nuanced response?
Several hundred people stuck in a very small space for many hours with many of these people obliviously talking at louder-than-normal conversational levels to phantoms in the ether. Not that everybody is inconsiderate of others when talking on a cell phone, but there does seem to be something of "I'm not here, I'm in my own world" when talking on a cell phone.
So count me out of those looking forward to the day.
How do others feel?
Is this a "good thing" or a "not good thing"?
Or is there a more nuanced response?
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Originally Posted by nor4
I, for one, dread this day.
Several hundred people stuck in a very small space for many hours with many of these people obliviously talking at louder-than-normal conversational levels to phantoms in the ether. Not that everybody is inconsiderate of others when talking on a cell phone, but there does seem to be something of "I'm not here, I'm in my own world" when talking on a cell phone.
So count me out of those looking forward to the day.
How do others feel?
Is this a "good thing" or a "not good thing"?
Or is there a more nuanced response?
Several hundred people stuck in a very small space for many hours with many of these people obliviously talking at louder-than-normal conversational levels to phantoms in the ether. Not that everybody is inconsiderate of others when talking on a cell phone, but there does seem to be something of "I'm not here, I'm in my own world" when talking on a cell phone.
So count me out of those looking forward to the day.
How do others feel?
Is this a "good thing" or a "not good thing"?
Or is there a more nuanced response?
I suspect the cell phone is a game for many people, to fulfill a feeling of self importance and to show others that they are important too. I'm not a psychologist by all means, but I had observed public for the last 15 years and I don't think I'd be that way off.
I can only imagine a big shot salesman trying to close a deal in a plane with the cell phone, while 4 other people around him are watching him while he tries to turn on his laptop and send the customer an email!! I guess the bathroom will become a phone booth!!
Last edited by Super Larry; Dec 15, 2004 at 2:31 pm
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a rumor I heard is that there will be IF gambling
Just a little bird in my ear but I heard the approval will be the first step toward getting inflight "online" gambling. Don't know how true this is.
Originally Posted by potzel1
I am sure a lot of you (me included) cannot wait for this day to be here
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._air_travelers
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._air_travelers
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Well the article is about wireless Internet access, which I'm all for.
Cell phones in flight have been discussed ad naseaum in other threads. One thing that I did just find out about, however, was a study confirming what I've been saying all along - people are annoyed with cell phone users because they can only hear one side of the conversation.
Cell phones in flight have been discussed ad naseaum in other threads. One thing that I did just find out about, however, was a study confirming what I've been saying all along - people are annoyed with cell phone users because they can only hear one side of the conversation.
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Originally Posted by peachfront
Just a little bird in my ear but I heard the approval will be the first step toward getting inflight "online" gambling. Don't know how true this is.
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I have used the service on Lufthansa and its very useful and actually proved to me that it can save you a lot of headaches for spending too much time sipping wine and watching movies at 32000 feet thinking thats it nothing to do now for the next 12 hours might as well get stuck into some hospitality.
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My thought: If people want to talk on their cell phone on a plane, the airlines should request them as what some restaurants have already done, "Step out of the plane (restaurant)".
35,000 feet on a 6 hours flight, I prefer not to hear my seatmates yapping non-stop about their pets, parents, kids, back hair removal or botox.
35,000 feet on a 6 hours flight, I prefer not to hear my seatmates yapping non-stop about their pets, parents, kids, back hair removal or botox.
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None of the accounts I've seen in the last couple of days have done a good job with getting the basic facts right or sorting out the difference between wireless broadband access and in-flight cell phone use (i.e. using your exisiting mobile phone). Even NPR's story this morning, while accurate, was a jumbled mess.
In-flight broadband access - not happening tomorrow, but relatively soon. There's among other things, a spectrum auction to take place and licensee(s) to determine. This is the same air-to-ground spectrum that's currently used for the expensive seat-back phones that no one uses (if you can still find them onboard)
Cell phone use - way off. Coming, probably, but several years down the pike (unless you're already trying to use your phone onboard - we all know it happens now, even if we're not fessing up). Biggest distinction is between the technical issues and the policy issues - can it be done vs should it be done. FCC inquiry (and FAA studies) are intended to focus on the former; they are likely destined to degenerate into a shouting match over the later.
With respect to the broadband, it's one I could see as providing much needed new telecom-related mileage earning opportunities through tie-ins, if marketed right.
In-flight broadband access - not happening tomorrow, but relatively soon. There's among other things, a spectrum auction to take place and licensee(s) to determine. This is the same air-to-ground spectrum that's currently used for the expensive seat-back phones that no one uses (if you can still find them onboard)
Cell phone use - way off. Coming, probably, but several years down the pike (unless you're already trying to use your phone onboard - we all know it happens now, even if we're not fessing up). Biggest distinction is between the technical issues and the policy issues - can it be done vs should it be done. FCC inquiry (and FAA studies) are intended to focus on the former; they are likely destined to degenerate into a shouting match over the later.
With respect to the broadband, it's one I could see as providing much needed new telecom-related mileage earning opportunities through tie-ins, if marketed right.
Last edited by Mr. July; Dec 15, 2004 at 3:47 pm Reason: feeble attempt to make post topical to forum
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I rue the day that internet access and cell phone use becomes "the norm".
Why? I fly 100k+ miles a year, squeezing in a 60 hour week inbetween the Monday-Friday flights. I know that for at least 4 hours a week, I have to turn off the cell phone and shut the laptop down and relax .
I work extremely hard when I'm on the ground, but those precious hours where I cannot get a call on my cell phone and cannot bang out emails are what keeps me able to do this week-in and week-out.
Why? I fly 100k+ miles a year, squeezing in a 60 hour week inbetween the Monday-Friday flights. I know that for at least 4 hours a week, I have to turn off the cell phone and shut the laptop down and relax .
I work extremely hard when I'm on the ground, but those precious hours where I cannot get a call on my cell phone and cannot bang out emails are what keeps me able to do this week-in and week-out.
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Originally Posted by par8thed
I rue the day that internet access and cell phone use becomes "the norm".
Why? I fly 100k+ miles a year, squeezing in a 60 hour week inbetween the Monday-Friday flights. I know that for at least 4 hours a week, I have to turn off the cell phone and shut the laptop down and relax .
I work extremely hard when I'm on the ground, but those precious hours where I cannot get a call on my cell phone and cannot bang out emails are what keeps me able to do this week-in and week-out.
Why? I fly 100k+ miles a year, squeezing in a 60 hour week inbetween the Monday-Friday flights. I know that for at least 4 hours a week, I have to turn off the cell phone and shut the laptop down and relax .
I work extremely hard when I'm on the ground, but those precious hours where I cannot get a call on my cell phone and cannot bang out emails are what keeps me able to do this week-in and week-out.
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Originally Posted by catflyer
You'll still be able to turn off your cell/laptop, but those of us who would rather do the emails during the flight and use the extra hours on the ground with wife/kids now have a new option.
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Originally Posted by catflyer
You'll still be able to turn off your cell/laptop, but those of us who would rather do the emails during the flight and use the extra hours on the ground with wife/kids now have a new option.
Its more along the lines of it becoming widely known. For instance, if boss/clients/coworkers know that we can be reached on mobile phones and email whenever we're on a plane, that flight-time suddenly becomes worktime as well.
Those that see the flight as time to get caught up and have more time with family/friends, this ruling hits a home run. For others that see it as no-work, no-email, chance to read a book or watch a dvd, its just not a great thing. Its kind of like an employer deciding that 8am-10am on Saturday is now fair game for regular work.
Its just a different point of view, I guess (which is why we're here ^ )
Last edited by par8thed; Dec 15, 2004 at 9:31 pm