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Old Mar 19, 08, 12:59 pm   #1741
 
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[quote=KVS;9433629]In the KVS Tool, award availability for all supported *A carriers is uniformly shown as FS (First Award), CS (Business Award), and YS (Economy Award).[quote]

Believe the KVS Tool pulls *A award data from the NH website but does not translate that data to actual booking codes or quantify the actual number of seats available.

Any reason why the KVS Tool couldn't entertain a custom query which would return an enhanced display containing both revenue and award booking class availability? That seems to be what many of us really want!
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Old Mar 19, 08, 1:25 pm   #1742
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Believe the KVS Tool pulls *A award data from the NH website but does not translate that data to actual booking codes or quantify the actual number of seats available.
While neither option is particularly useful to the majority of users, one can both translate the data into the actual booking classes, as well as determine the actual number of seats available by following the relevant instructions in the KVS Tool User Guide/FAQ.

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Any reason why the KVS Tool couldn't entertain a custom query which would return an enhanced display containing both revenue and award booking class availability? That seems to be what many of us really want!
Except for a very few carriers, regular and award booking classes do not mix and cannot be a part of the same query.
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Old Mar 20, 08, 12:28 am   #1743
 
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Amadeus Operational Info

I seem to be getting a blank page when I try to retrieve the Amadeus Operational Info.

Is that not working anymore?
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Old Mar 20, 08, 5:27 am   #1744
 
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OK, I'm lost.

I have downloaded the Tool.

I have requested the Registration Code and it turned up overnight.

Now what do I do ? I don't see anywhere on the KVS homepage where I "log in" or similar.

And, believe it or not, I've worked in IT all my career ..... !
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Old Mar 20, 08, 7:15 am   #1745
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Now what do I do ? I don't see anywhere on the KVS homepage where I "log in" or similar.
Just open up the tool.

Click on the "Keys" icon at the top right.

Select the "Register/Verify Registration" option then paste in your Registration Code.
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Old Mar 20, 08, 5:53 pm   #1746
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I seem to be getting a blank page when I try to retrieve the Amadeus Operational Info.

Is that not working anymore?
That feature is temporarily down, but it will be restored in the next version.
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Old Mar 20, 08, 5:58 pm   #1747
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And, believe it or not, I've worked in IT all my career ..... !
Are you sure that it is a good idea to post that in a public forum?
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Old Mar 21, 08, 12:44 am   #1748
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If your question is restricted to United, then the answer is as follows:

First (Free) = XF/"R"
First (UG) = NF/"X"
Business (Free) = XC/"O"
Business (UG) = NC/"I"

Note that there are actually two booking classes for each award category.

That's because United's internal systems allow some special two character booking classes (XF/NF/XC/NC) which don't work in most other booking engines including large GDSs, e.g. Abacus, Amadeus, Apollo, Sabre and Worldspan and/or major web sites, e.g. Expedia, Orbitz and Travelocity.

In either case, it's almost impossible to look at inventory levels for these booking classes.
Thanks Jet Yi, it's very much appreciated! Does anyone else know the award booking classes for SQ and AC?
Cheers!
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Old Mar 21, 08, 7:46 pm   #1749
 
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Thanks all

Didn't see it had placed an icon on the desktop; was looking on the website.
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Old Mar 25, 08, 7:14 am   #1750
 
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Hi gang,

i was just playing around with this great tool.
When i search for LH756 next Thursday i get:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FR   28 Mrz 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------- 
LH/Nacil  1610   FRA  11:35     BOM  23:50     744  0    F2 A2 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4
LH        756    FRA  13:30     BOM  01:35 +1  744  0    F9 A9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9
This flight on the way back is turning into LH757 every day, but when i use SWAP and enter 29.03.08 the flight is not showing up:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SA   29 Mrz 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------- 
LH/Nacil  1611   BOM  08:05     FRA  12:30     744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0

Any ideas on why this is so?

Regards from India

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Old Mar 27, 08, 4:32 pm   #1751
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This flight on the way back is turning into LH757 every day, but when i use SWAP and enter 29.03.08 the flight is not showing up:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SA   29 Mrz 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------- 
LH/Nacil  1611   BOM  08:05     FRA  12:30     744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0

Any ideas on why this is so?
You probably have the time set to maybe 7am or 8am.

LH757 leaves BOM @ 03:25 so you have to set the time for the search to 00:00.
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Old Mar 27, 08, 10:07 pm   #1752
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You probably have the time set to maybe 7am or 8am.

LH757 leaves BOM @ 03:25 so you have to set the time for the search to 00:00.
I always keep my time set to: "(any)" in the tool...

By the way, welcome to FT, Michael! (db8us!)

Note that I just tried this with my Platinum subscription, and Apollo is only showing the same info. (1 flight, LH 1611)

In Sabre I see LH757.

I would try using the tool at: www.seatcounter.com - that site has a link to a GDS similar to Sabre, I think....

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Old Mar 28, 08, 12:25 am   #1753
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I always keep my time set to: "(any)" in the tool...

By the way, welcome to FT, Michael! (db8us!)

Note that I just tried this with my Platinum subscription, and Apollo is only showing the same info. (1 flight, LH 1611)

In Sabre I see LH757.
The exact meaning of "(Any Time)" varies by Engine/GDS.

As mentioned in the KVS Tool FAQ, "If the flight departs very early (e.g. 03 [am]) or very late (e.g. 23:50), you may need to specify a specific value in the [Time:] field to make such a flight appear":

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SAT  29 Mar 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------- 
LH        757    BOM  03:25     FRA  07:45     744  0    F0 A0 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0
LH/Nacil  1611   BOM  08:05     FRA  12:30     744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0
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Old Mar 28, 08, 8:08 am   #1754
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KVS - Error searching for Awards/StarAlliance

Hello,

I am getting an error message that shows "Initialization Error" "" when performing a search for availability. Is anyone else experiencing this? I can search regular fares through Sabre: ITN or Galileo: ETR, etc. however need to check *A awards availability.

Will very much appreciate if someone is able to advise ASAP if they are experiencing the same issue.

On a side note, is there a way of searching award availability by month rather than searching through each day?

Cheers.
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Old Mar 28, 08, 12:27 pm   #1755
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I am getting an error message that shows "Initialization Error" "" when performing a search for availability. Is anyone else experiencing this? I can search regular fares through Sabre: ITN or Galileo: ETR, etc. however need to check *A awards availability.
An alert regarding this issue has been posted on the KVS Tool Homepage on 26 Mar.


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On a side note, is there a way of searching award availability by month rather than searching through each day?
Pls see KVS Tool FAQ.
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