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Old Feb 7, 08, 4:04 pm   #1711
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Old Feb 15, 08, 7:29 am   #1712
 
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JAL Availability on KVS

I want to book 2 x business class from BNE-NRT with an AAdvantage all-partner award.

My travel date of Jan 16, 2009 is not available to AA for another week, but QF does show that far ahead. When I look on QF website it only shows availability on flights with a stop in CNS, but on KVS the direct [JAL] fliights do show with QF flight numbers but with availablity as CS/ YS+

The flight does have a business cabin, so is it just not available to QF to book an award in? (Otherwise, I would expect to see CS-)

I had a look on JAL's website for the week before (as it, too, has the 330 day limitation) and it shows 2 business class on Jan 8 on the direct JL762, but nothing shows up on KVS or QF site - both of which reinforce my suspicion about access to JAL awards.
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Old Feb 15, 08, 9:03 am   #1713
 
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I'm checking FRA-LHR on a random date using Apollo ITN with time set as "any" or 00:00. If I don't specify a carrier then the only result I get is an AeroMexico codeshare flight on Air France via Paris. Slightly bizarre, isn't it?

If I specify BA as the carrier then I get those carrier's flights listed but they are listed after the same AM/AF flights through CDG.

If I specify LH as the carrier it seems to work as designed.

Any idea what's happening?
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Old Feb 15, 08, 12:32 pm   #1714
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My travel date of Jan 16, 2009 is not available to AA for another week, but QF does show that far ahead. When I look on QF website it only shows availability on flights with a stop in CNS, but on KVS the direct [JAL] fliights do show with QF flight numbers but with availablity as CS/ YS+
JL award availability is not supported by that Method. The supported carriers are QF/BA/AA/AY/IB/MA/LA + EI. Furthermore, award reservations have to be made using the 'real' (and not codeshare) flight numbers. I am guessing that that JL-op'd flight did not get filtered-out in error as it has a low flight number.
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Old Feb 15, 08, 1:05 pm   #1715
 
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JL award availability is not supported by that Method. The supported carriers are QF/BA/AA/AY/IB/MA/LA + EI. Furthermore, award reservations have to be made using the 'real' (and not codeshare) flight numbers. I am guessing that that JL-op'd flight did not get filtered-out in error as it has a low flight number.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old Feb 15, 08, 1:22 pm   #1716
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I'm checking FRA-LHR on a random date using Apollo ITN with time set as "any" or 00:00. If I don't specify a carrier then the only result I get is an AeroMexico codeshare flight on Air France via Paris. Slightly bizarre, isn't it?

If I specify BA as the carrier then I get those carrier's flights listed but they are listed after the same AM/AF flights through CDG.

If I specify LH as the carrier it seems to work as designed.

Any idea what's happening?
It's a known quirk in the [Apollo: ITN] engine, so the KVS Tool FAQ recommends always specifying a carrier when using that Method.

Alternatively, you can use [WSpan: ITN] or [Sabre: ITN].
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Old Feb 17, 08, 11:34 pm   #1717
 
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I'm getting a message on the KVS tool telling me that my version 3.04 is out of date and needs to be updated to 3.03
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Old Feb 17, 08, 11:48 pm   #1718
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I'm getting a message on the KVS tool telling me that my version 3.04 is out of date and needs to be updated to 3.03
There currently ongoing issues with the [Sabre: Fares/DotRes] engine and, for now, V3.0.4 has been withdrawn.
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Old Feb 20, 08, 7:52 pm   #1719
 
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Fare look up problems---

Even after going back to 3.0.3 both Sabre fare methods come back with errors - any tips? I'm plat so that's not it.
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Old Feb 20, 08, 8:08 pm   #1720
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Even after going back to 3.0.3 both Sabre fare methods come back with errors - any tips? I'm plat so that's not it.
Both Fares Methods are fully operational at the moment -- pls see http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/FAQ.php#Errors
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Old Feb 22, 08, 2:54 pm   #1721
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Arrow Version 3.0.x: What's New

See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...15#post9498115
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Old Feb 25, 08, 9:26 pm   #1722
 
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Stupid question from a newbie

OK, so I have Platinum status, and did a search on fares use Sabre: Fares/ZUJ. Here is the search result:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.5/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/USD]
Code:
DCA  Washington Ronald Reagan Ntl DC US [KDCA]
CAN  Guangzhou Baiyun CN [ZGGG]
RT   Feb-Jan

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
NW        WAS    CAN      514   USD            Sat   30  KXSA45
AA        WAS    CAN      514   USD            Sat   60  WX7AP1F
NW        WAS    CAN      514   USD            Sat   30  KLXSA33
AA        WAS    CAN      514   USD            Sat   1M  NX7P1A
Now, I know (and probably) understand the fare basis b/c it is pretty much self-explanatory. Assuming seats are available, what do I do next? Do I call up NW or AA or my travel agent, give them the fare basis and they will purchase the ticket for me?

Sorry for this stupid question, I am just new to this tool and found it very helpful so far. Thank you for all of your help!
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Old Feb 25, 08, 9:32 pm   #1723
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Now, I know (and probably) understand the fare basis b/c it is pretty much self-explanatory. Assuming seats are available, what do I do next? Do I call up NW or AA or my travel agent, give them the fare basis and they will purchase the ticket for me?
Pls see KVS Tool FAQ under "Q: I'm seeing some great fares using one of the [Fares:] Methods, but how do I actually book them?":

http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/FAQ.php#FAQ
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Old Feb 26, 08, 2:01 am   #1724
 
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Version 3.0.5 no longer working for me

After updating to version 3.0.5, the tool is no longer working for me. After starting a request, I continuously receive the following error message:

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Datasource Error:
"Proxy System (it's name): Download in progress ULR:
http://www.itn.net/ ......(long ULR)......."
If reason(s) for the above message are unclear, please click the [?] button to review the latest system status anouncements.
UNQUOTE

The internet access in my compnay is via proxy server, but the settings in Internet Explorer are working fine and in the past the KVS tool was working perfectly with these settings.
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Old Feb 26, 08, 11:49 am   #1725
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After updating to version 3.0.5, the tool is no longer working for me. After starting a request, I continuously receive the following error message:

QUOTE:
Datasource Error:
"Proxy System (it's name): Download in progress ULR:
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The internet access in my compnay is via proxy server, but the settings in Internet Explorer are working fine and in the past the KVS tool was working perfectly with these settings.
That message is coming from your proxy server. If it requires a username/password, pls see KVS Tool FAQ. Otherwise, pls contact your network administrator.
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