New KVS Availability Tool Is Here!

[KVS]

Originally Posted by donjoff

Does version 3.0.0 have functionality to find the ticketed-point mileage deductions for MPM fares?

I was not able to determine that yet. If there is a specific fare, for which you know that a TPM deduction exists, pls let me know and I will try to look into it further.

[jason8612]

Question
I was checking upgrade awards on UA.
KVS showed me this
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.1/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]

ORD  Chicago O'Hare Int'l IL US [KORD]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MON  07 Jan 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C       Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ------------- 
UA        958    ORD  16:18     LHR  05:55 +1  777       FS-  CS-  YS-
UA        928    ORD  18:05     LHR  07:55 +1  777       FS+  CS-  YS-
UA        938    ORD  21:14     LHR  11:00 +1  777       FS-  CS+  YS-
UA        922    ORD  06:00     LHR  22:00     CHG       FS+  CS-  YS-

while seatcounter told me
UA958 is I9/X1
UA 938 is I9/X0
UA928 is I8/X4

.bomb told me
UA958 is NC9/NF1
UA 938 is NC9/NF0
UA928 is NC8/NF4

so seatcounter and .bomb agree, but KVS doesnt...

[KVS]

Originally Posted by jason8612

so seatcounter and .bomb agree, but KVS doesnt...

There have been numerous reports of both of those sources providing inaccurate data -- see, for example, Why is seatcounter so wrong?

[jason8612]

also is there a way to look up a specific fare basis? like the MA one?

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by jason8612

Question
I was checking upgrade awards on UA.
KVS showed me this
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.1/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]

ORD  Chicago O'Hare Int'l IL US [KORD]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MON  07 Jan 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C       Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ------------- 
UA        958    ORD  16:18     LHR  05:55 +1  777       FS-  CS-  YS-
UA        928    ORD  18:05     LHR  07:55 +1  777       FS+  CS-  YS-
UA        938    ORD  21:14     LHR  11:00 +1  777       FS-  CS+  YS-
UA        922    ORD  06:00     LHR  22:00     CHG       FS+  CS-  YS-

while seatcounter told me
UA958 is I9/X1
UA 938 is I9/X0
UA928 is I8/X4

.bomb told me
UA958 is NC9/NF1
UA 938 is NC9/NF0
UA928 is NC8/NF4

so seatcounter and .bomb agree, but KVS doesnt...

You have to take into account what UA themselves is providing to their own members (showing in .bomb, possibly also SeatCounter, if they have access to UA's database), in stark contrast to the Star Alliance *award* availability, which United offers to *outside* partners, such as NH in this specific case, which is where KVS is linked to, in order to check for award availability.

This is exactly why certain airlines show availability in KVS (ANA Star Alliance award availability), but UA cannot get access to those seats, if the airlines are not providing United with those award seats.

[KVS]

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

You have to take into account what UA themselves is providing to their own members (showing in .bomb, possibly also SeatCounter, if they have access to UA's database), in stark contrast to the Star Alliance *award* availability, which United offers to *outside* partners, such as NH in this specific case, which is where KVS is linked to, in order to check for award availability.

This is exactly why certain airlines show availability in KVS (ANA Star Alliance award availability), but UA cannot get access to those seats, if the airlines are not providing United with those award seats.

Actually, no. It's UA, which is filtering-out StarNet availability for other carriers (to encourage their members to redeem on UA flights instead).

[TerryK]

Originally Posted by jason8612

....so seatcounter and .bomb agree, but KVS doesnt...

Seatcounter gets its data from .bomb. They are always the same.

[KVS]

Originally Posted by jason8612

also is there a way to look up a specific fare basis? like the MA one?

This feature is not yet publicly available, but I tested it yesterday to get the fare rules for the MA fare: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...&postcount=137

[jason8612]

Originally Posted by KVS

This feature is not yet publicly available, but I tested it yesterday to get the fare rules for the MA fare: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...&postcount=137

I know, I saw it and something like that would be real nice. Hope it will be added soon

[BDA shorts]

I was wondering how you brought up those fare rules... try as I could I couldn't get the right fare code to show up in DotRes or ZUJ methods.

[KVS]

Originally Posted by BDA shorts

I was wondering how you brought up those fare rules... try as I could I couldn't get the right fare code to show up in DotRes or ZUJ methods.

As mentioned above, this functionality is currently available for internal use only...

[mrandery]

Hi

I'm getting the following error when KVS launches a browser window.

"Firefox can't find the file at /C:/Program Files/KVS Availability Tool/OpenURL.htm."

Any ideas?

Thanks

[KVS]

Originally Posted by mrandery

Hi

I'm getting the following error when KVS launches a browser window.

"Firefox can't find the file at /C:/Program Files/KVS Availability Tool/OpenURL.htm."

Any ideas?

Thanks

This indicates a problem with Firefox and/or your system configuration. You may wish to try locating and opening the above-mentioned file using Windows Explorer (by double-clicking it), reinstalling Firefox, or setting a different browser as your default.

[mrandery]

Originally Posted by KVS

This indicates a problem with Firefox and/or your system configuration. You may wish to try locating and opening the above-mentioned file using Windows Explorer (by double-clicking it), reinstalling Firefox, or setting a different browser as your default.

Tried locating the file. It does not exist.

Changing the default browser to IE did not do it either.

I presume KVS creates the file on the fly?

Fyi, I'm using Vista

[KVS]

Originally Posted by mrandery

Tried locating the file. It does not exist.

Changing the default browser to IE did not do it either.

I presume KVS creates the file on the fly?

Fyi, I'm using Vista

You have to locate the file after requesting a browser-based operation and while the Tool is still running.