mrbluesky
Please tell us why
You had to hide away for so long
So long
Where did we go wrong?
It might have something to do with the man's being accused, firstly, of making an overly big deal out of this. While this might be true, it's a bit much to turn around and accuse him of 'hiding away', or in other words, not making a big enough deal out of it.
Now if you'll all excuse me, I've decided to go and change my name to 'Debbie' and move to Dallas.....
It might have something to do with the man's being accused, firstly, of making an overly big deal out of this. While this might be true, it's a bit much to turn around and accuse him of 'hiding away', or in other words, not making a big enough deal out of it.
mrbluesky sent me a private message with additional lyrics to the 1978 song Mr. Blue Sky by Electric Light Orchestra in response to my milepost, in which quoting the chorus lyric-by-lyric from that song was an attempt to lighten the discussion in this thread with a little humor. Apparently mrbluesky fully understood my attempt at humor in this thread, which one might call cornography.
Porn is good. People like it. It makes hotels money. Prohibition didn't work, nor will banning porn. Hotels and the internet make millions off it. Its not just one guy downstairs in his parents basement. It is everyone.
mrbluesky sent me a private message with additional lyrics to the 1978 song Mr. Blue Sky by Electric Light Orchestra in response to my milepost, in which quoting the chorus lyric-by-lyric from that song was an attempt to lighten the discussion in this thread with a little humor. Apparently mrbluesky fully understood my attempt at humor in this thread, which one might call cornography.
It is asking rather a lot of me, isn't it, to accept that you were but trying to lighten the discussion, when by going off-board with Bluesky to exchange private messages, the two of you were no longer participating in the discussion.
By all means try to inject humour, just remember that what is taken as humour and what isn't is very much dependent on context.
1. Should porn movies be banned in hotel rooms? -- No, I still think freedom of choice should be the way to go, if the hotel chooses. And I detest the thought of any group attempting to usurp anyone's right to do (or watch) anything they want in the privacy of their hotel room.
2. Should access to porn movies be restricted? Absolutely. No doubt about it, porn IS a divisive issue in our country, and a hotel guest should not be subject to viewing it unless he/she specifically wants and makes severall affirmative actions on the remote to access it. Same reason for access to children. Blocking a room should be allowed if technically able.
3. Finally -- my pet peeve -- all this talk about straight porn. What about the rest of us who are, ahem, further down the Kinsey scale? If anyone wants to lobby for inclusion of gay/lesbian porn, let me know!
That last point should have the 'family values' groupies clutching their collective chests with The Big One.
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Last edited by DaDOKin DC; Jan 16, 05 at 5:18 pm.
Reason: clarifaication
IMO, until we have ayatollahs or their equivalent running this country, what a person sees - and pays for - in the privacy of their own room should be up to them, within the bounds of current legal restrictions. Generally, it is easy to call downstairs or use the remote control to block porn - which is generally an extra "pay" service. (I spend my money on worthwhile stuff, like MRs. )
We are not in Saudi Arabia, where the mutaween (religious police, full name the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice,) beat young women with batons until they returned into a burning school, where fifteen girls were incinerated for the heinous crime of not wearing head coverings and abayahs as they vainly attempted escaping the conflagration, or wh o will lash a woman on the wrist for walking down the street with a hair escaping from her head covering, or countries that might even do worse.
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Last edited by JDiver; Jan 18, 05 at 6:06 pm.
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One would assume that while routinely scrolling through tv channels, you could EXPECT to see TV preachers, Jerry Springer, political rantings, inane commercials, but should one expect to see hard core porn?
Well first you seem to be going on the assumption that porn is somehow worse than the other stuff mentioned. That's a personal preference, not a universal norm.
Second, did you talk to the hotel management? It sounds like what you encountered was probably a mistake, as it's not the standard operating procedure. It's certainly not the SOP anywhere that I'm familiar with.
The currecnt system typically allows the porn to be blocked, on request at the front desk or in the PPV system itself. Typically there are no regular channels that show "hardcore" porn on the free TV offerings, so you can't stumble upon it.
There's always going to be at least some chance of something you don't want to see slipping through. That, we're all going to have to live with. Don't let it ruin your day.
They have no desire to control it. That is why they should be forced to control it. All the complaining to the hotel wouldn't do a bit of good because they do not care. They care too much for the almighty dollar.
If hotels do listen to the "almighty dollar" as you claim, then porn won't be available for free anywhere, thus, problem solved.
Now, outside the US is a different story, as you'll often be able to find porn on regular, broadcast television, as much of the rest of the developed world doesn't have the same hang-ups about porn as the US. We're pretty tightly wound that way here in the US.
In post #158, I assumed that the complaint about pornography included both heterosexual and homosexual porn.
I did realize that.
I was just making the comment (admittedly a bit snarky) that hotels cater to the riske desires of straight people, but for gays/lesbians there is not even that option.
So I was staying at The Benjamin in NYC for a couple of nights this week, and was flipping through the channels on one of the TVs in the room. I came across a scene from "Sideways," and I thought to myself, "This can't be on TV yet; it must be a promo." But the movie kept playing, and I soon realized that I was watching the full movie. I then kept flipping channels, and realized when I soon came across several channels of hard core porn that I had full access to the PPV system.
Here is what I believe happened: On Command, the company that operates this system and the systems at many other hotels (I think they're the market leader) has a proprietary switch that switches a hotel guest who purchases a PPV movie to a channel that is otherwise unused and plays the movie on that channel. The way it is supposed to work, hotel guests other than the hotel guest who purchased the movie cannot access that particular channel. But one of the TVs in my room (but not the other) had access to ALL of the PPV movie channels, so I was able to see what every other hotel guest had ordered. (I certainly didn't do a scientific study, but current in theater movies like Sideways and Ray are popular, but not as popular as the porn.)
So while none of the views I have expressed on this thread have changed as a result of this experience, I do now see how it sometimes can happen that children and other people who do not want to view porn might be exposed to it. It does not lead me to conclude that porn should not be available to those who want it, and reinforces my view that children should not be left to flip channels on their own.
NEW YORK — Pornographic movies now seem nearly as pervasive in America’s hotel rooms as tiny shampoo bottles, and the lodging industry shows little concern as conservative activists rev up a protest campaign aimed at triggering a federal crackdown.
A coalition of 13 conservative groups — including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America — took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.
I saw this story on the local news this evening here in the Atlanta area and thought I would post an update in this thread.
By David Crary
AP NATIONAL WRITERI saw this story on the local news this evening here in the Atlanta area and thought I would post an update in this thread.
Good luck. This is a huge revenue source for hotels. It would take an enormous boycott to offset the revenue these hotels earn on porn. Given that just about all of the big chains offer porn, where would the boycott even begin?
This is just organizations looking to take a stand, and media looking for a hot button issue to write about. Porn will nonetheless be available on your next hotel stay, the one after that, and each one thereafter.
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This is one of the reasons that God gave us fingers... so we can change channels! With the exception of the system glitches mentioned prior, one must request porn in their hotel room. As others have mentioned, most PPV systems have the ability to shut off even inadvertant access via either the remote or via a call to the front desk.
I don't mind if you don't like porn. It's your choice. However, as long as no one is hurt in the making of said entertainment, I should have the right to enjoy it.
Ban? No Restrict access? And what about G/L?
Da DOK 
I support porn.
