It has been our experience that not every hotel/motel that offers porn has the capability to selectively block channels on their television system - so, No, parents can not always block porn from hotel TV's. And if you read my earlier posts, you would see I mentioned a system where if you don't a change channel for >3 minutes, movies automatically start - and you don't necessarily know what the movie will be on that system.
Well this is obviously a problem; the TV shouldn't default to porn. And I don't see any reasons why there shouldn't be an easy blocking system either via telling the front desk or by punching a button on the TV menu in your room.
I am against hotels offering porn in hotel rooms because you don't have to choose it in order to view it. We've read many examples here of where people turn the set on and instantly see porn. I am all for free speech, but where is my freedom FROM watching porn when I turn the TV on and porn is shown?
I was staying at a golf resort (I use the term loosely) in West Virginia with my wife and was turning the channels trying to find something to watch. Without notice, we came upon a channel showing hard core porn. Where is my freedom from watching it? I called the front desk, and they said someone must have "re-programmed" the box. I have a question. With kids being more tech saavy, whats to keep them from reprogramming these boxes to view the porn (if it can be done)? What about the situation where you turn the set on and your child sees porn on TV? I've seen very little answer to these questions here.
Someone here said, if you don't like drugs, then don't use drugs. How would you like it if someone forced you to take drugs?
About the comment someone made about banning the Bible from hotel rooms (if you don't want to read it, etc.) How would you like it if someone came into your room and forced you to listen to them reading the Bible?
Currently, there are no means of ensuring that children do not view hard core porn (showing children hard core porn IS illegal at least here in Wisconsin). There are no means of ensuring that children do not order the material themselves. The porn channels are not properly blocked so those who do not wish to see it are not forced to see it.
How about a 10 to 15 second delay warning you that you are about to access porn, giving you the right to opt out? How about having porn disabled from any room where the hotel knows a minor child will be staying in the room? There are countless things hotels can do, and as of now they have shown NO willingness to do anything. To their shame, making a dollar is more important to them. Till they have shown themselves to be more responsible with porn, they should not be allowed to have it.
I am against hotels offering porn in hotel rooms because you don't have to choose it in order to view it. We've read many examples here of where people turn the set on and instantly see porn. I am all for free speech, but where is my freedom FROM watching porn when I turn the TV on and porn is shown?
I was staying at a golf resort (I use the term loosely) in West Virginia with my wife and was turning the channels trying to find something to watch. Without notice, we came upon a channel showing hard core porn. Where is my freedom from watching it? I called the front desk, and they said someone must have "re-programmed" the box. I have a question. With kids being more tech saavy, whats to keep them from reprogramming these boxes to view the porn (if it can be done)? What about the situation where you turn the set on and your child sees porn on TV? I've seen very little answer to these questions here.
Someone here said, if you don't like drugs, then don't use drugs. How would you like it if someone forced you to take drugs?
About the comment someone made about banning the Bible from hotel rooms (if you don't want to read it, etc.) How would you like it if someone came into your room and forced you to listen to them reading the Bible?
Currently, there are no means of ensuring that children do not view hard core porn (showing children hard core porn IS illegal at least here in Wisconsin). There are no means of ensuring that children do not order the material themselves. The porn channels are not properly blocked so those who do not wish to see it are not forced to see it.
How about a 10 to 15 second delay warning you that you are about to access porn, giving you the right to opt out? How about having porn disabled from any room where the hotel knows a minor child will be staying in the room? There are countless things hotels can do, and as of now they have shown NO willingness to do anything. To their shame, making a dollar is more important to them. Till they have shown themselves to be more responsible with porn, they should not be allowed to have it.
Yes, I'd have to agree with all of the above..I'm partial to a bit of porn but kids shouldn't be able to view it at all and you certainly shouldn't see it as soon as you turn on the TV.
This thread has caused a lot of response and in summing up I think the majority of contributors would:
a) Not deny porn to those who choose to want it
b) Agree that kids shouldn't be able to view it at all
c) Not want to see it involuntarily.
Most hotels will let you block pron from your room if you request it. If the hotel does not offer that service, don't stay there. If they do, ask them to block the porn when you check in--is this any different than requesting a no smoke room? - end of story -
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We've read many examples here of where people turn the set on and instantly see porn.
I was staying at a golf resort (I use the term loosely) in West Virginia with my wife and was turning the channels trying to find something to watch. Without notice, we came upon a channel showing hard core porn.
Is this hotel in the Hilton or Starwood program? And are any of these other "instant porn" hotels someplace besides WV? Do any of these hotels in the US offer free porn, preferably as members of *wood or Hilton?
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Is this hotel in the Hilton or Starwood program? And are any of these other "instant porn" hotels someplace besides WV? Do any of these hotels in the US offer free porn, preferably as members of *wood or Hilton?
Thanks!
I couldn't remember the name at the time of my post, but looked it up. It is the Lakeview Scanticon Resort in Morgantown, WV.
Reading through many of the posts here, this has happened to other people. I am by no means an expert but reading multiple posts on here, plus my experience leads me to believe that porn in hotels is loosely controlled, if controlled at all.
Most hotels will let you block pron from your room if you request it. If the hotel does not offer that service, don't stay there. If they do, ask them to block the porn when you check in--is this any different than requesting a no smoke room? - end of story -
And how do I know if I ask them to block it, that it will in fact be blocked? The resort where I stayed would supposedly only allow you to view porn if you paid for it, and clicked the confirmation. Yet, it didn't take that for me to see it.
They have no desire to control it. That is why they should be forced to control it. All the complaining to the hotel wouldn't do a bit of good because they do not care. They care too much for the almighty dollar.
People are offended by a wide variety of things. Some people are offended by violence. Some by the N word. Some by the mention of the word God in the national anthem. Some by Randy Moss fake-mooning the Packer fans. Some by foul language. Some by mistreatment of animals. Some by Janet Jackson's boob shown during the Super Bowl halftime. Network TV censors things all the time. Because someone is offended by something as overt as hard core porn and you are not does not make me a religious nut. I happen to think that hotels who offer porn do not self-censor themselves well enough. This lack of care taken allows children to view porn, which borders on illegality. It allows those offended by porn and who care not to see it to accidentally see it. It is because hotels are grossly reckless in their standards of allowing porn viewership that it should be taken from them.
And how do I know if I ask them to block it, that it will in fact be blocked? The resort where I stayed would supposedly only allow you to view porn if you paid for it, and clicked the confirmation. Yet, it didn't take that for me to see it.
Couldn't wait to try it?
Seriously, the analogy to smoking is a great one. How do you know if porn will be a problem? You go to the room. If it's not blocked, request another room. If my non-smoking room smells like smoke, I request another room. I've done it plenty of times. Not a big deal. So why are you making it into a big deal?
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While I personally think porn is repulsive, I am astonished that people want hotels to be more aggressive against making it available. As said earlier, there is a tremendous amount of violence on TV which a child should NEVER see. Why not insist that hotels ban TVs?
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mrbluesky, I don't understand why your being offended by porn is somehow more important (and thus more worthy of regulation) than my being offended by other stuff. Simply because you have personal issues with sexuality on TV does not mean that you are a religious nut, merely that you have other tastes. As you yourself note, "People are offended by a wide variety of things". What makes your particular preferences worthy of such draconian action as "because hotels are grossly reckless in their standards of allowing porn viewership that it should be taken from them", while my preferences regarding religious broadcasts, commercials, and Jerry Springer, are not worthy of regulation?
Basically you claim that your preferences are more important than other people's. Sorry, I'm not buying that.
Seriously, the analogy to smoking is a great one. How do you know if porn will be a problem? You go to the room. If it's not blocked, request another room. If my non-smoking room smells like smoke, I request another room. I've done it plenty of times. Not a big deal. So why are you making it into a big deal?
Smelling smoke compared to viewing porn? How are those on the same level? Can you detect a room where porn is allowed by simply entering the room?
Suppose when you opened the door instead of something innocent like detecting that someone has smoked there, you experienced something that offended you? Its difficult to make an analogy because I don't know what offends you. If X offends you, and you experience X when you enter the room, then it's too late. Right?
Like you detect the smell to tell it is a smoking room, you can't tell it is a porn allowed room till you see porn. That's too late for me. Don't get me wrong. I can put up with a lot. But I want to say when and where and not have it put on me.
It IS a good analogy in that hotels would tell you your room was porn free and you'd still sometimes see porn, in the same way they tell you your room is non-smoking and you still smell smoke at times. This is proven by the fact that many people including kids see the porn without paying even though the hotel is supposed to charge per view.
mrbluesky, I don't understand why your being offended by porn is somehow more important (and thus more worthy of regulation) than my being offended by other stuff. Simply because you have personal issues with sexuality on TV does not mean that you are a religious nut, merely that you have other tastes. As you yourself note, "People are offended by a wide variety of things". What makes your particular preferences worthy of such draconian action as "because hotels are grossly reckless in their standards of allowing porn viewership that it should be taken from them", while my preferences regarding religious broadcasts, commercials, and Jerry Springer, are not worthy of regulation?
Basically you claim that your preferences are more important than other people's. Sorry, I'm not buying that.
1. Choice. No one is making you view those other things. 2 seconds of Jerry Springer or preaching is not equavilant to porn.
Your point would be valid if someone were forcing you to view Jerry Springer, but no one is.
2. Making porn available for kids to see is illegal.
1. Choice. No one is making you view those other things. 2 seconds of Jerry Springer or preaching is not equavilant to porn.
Your point would be valid if someone were forcing you to view Jerry Springer, but no one is.
2. Making porn available for kids to see is illegal.
1. The situations are exactly symmetrical. Depending on how the system is set up, you may be "exposed" to one or the other when the set/box is turned on, before you can change the channel. The choice factor is exactly equal. You say "2 seconds of Jerry Springer or preaching is not equivalent to porn", but that's just your mere opinion and tastes, and I don't believe your opinion and tastes are any more important than mine or anyone else's.
2. It may be or may not be, depending on the location, the age of the minors, the nature of the material, etc., and in any case if you have children present you, the adult or parent present, have the responsibility of policing their behavior. (Not the hotel, not the government, not the church, not "society", etc.)
Again, you have not made a case that porn is special, only that it's something you don't happen to like. Personally, I think hotel-room cable porn is pretty lame (at least in the U.S.), and I certainly don't pay for it, but I hope the hotels make lots of money from it, since (1) that helps keep down the cost of other hotel amenities by means of cross-subsidies, and (2) I am an investor in various hotel chain stocks.
I'm not sure I agree that the two things are exactly symmetrical because porn is almost exclusively visual (nobody is going to convince me that those things have much in the way of meaningful dialogue, still less a plot ) while Jerry Springer is shocking (supposedly) mainly because of what the man says.
Although I doubt my demographic forms a significant part of the target market for XXX movies, I'm quite happy to see them in hotel rooms; given what the hotel must be making on the rental of these things (the markups are ridiculous) they presumably can afford to keep the base price of the room down at least somewhat, which suits me to a T. On the other hand, I support maximum choice for consumers, and that includes ensuring that consumers get adequate warning for not just the content of the film or TV channel, but how much extra it's going to cost (including taxes.)
1. The situations are exactly symmetrical. Depending on how the system is set up, you may be "exposed" to one or the other when the set/box is turned on, before you can change the channel. The choice factor is exactly equal. You say "2 seconds of Jerry Springer or preaching is not equivalent to porn", but that's just your mere opinion and tastes, and I don't believe your opinion and tastes are any more important than mine or anyone else's.
Flipping through the channels and coming across 2 seconds of preaching, 2 seconds of Jerry Springer, then 2 seconds of hard core porn.... my guess is most people would be offended by the 2 seconds of hard core porn. I am not saying my opinion or taste is more important than anyone elses. Different does not make one better or worse than another.
If hotels were responsible enough to ensure that porn was turned off in a room where kids were staying; if they were responsible enough to see to it that anyone who didn't want to see it wouldn't have to see it; if they had some kind of safeguard in place which they obviously don't have now; then I would have *less* of a problem with porn in hotels than I do now. I would still be against it because I think it is a blight on our society and has undesirable effects on some people's lives. However, I would not feel as strongly about it if they had the controls in place than I do now. IMHO, to wish for these hotels to put these controls in place is equivalent to living in a dream world. Therefore, my opinion is still the same on the topic.
For the record: I will never go back to the resort in WV so I am voting with my dollars.
This is my final word on this because I think I've at least stated my opinion, (probably time to move on to another less controversial subject).
Smelling smoke compared to viewing porn? How are those on the same level? Can you detect a room where porn is allowed by simply entering the room?
Suppose when you opened the door instead of something innocent like detecting that someone has smoked there, you experienced something that offended you? Its difficult to make an analogy because I don't know what offends you. If X offends you, and you experience X when you enter the room, then it's too late. Right?
Wrong. It's never too late. If I see something wrong, I ask for a different room.
How are they on the same level? Are you kidding? You clearly are repulsed by the easy availability of porn channels on TV. I am easily repulsed by cigarette and cigar smoke. Why must you even think that yours is more serious? Who cares? LOL
If you are so concerned that the TVs in a hotel room have a block on it, when you get into your room, put on the TV. If you can access smut as easily as accessing CNN, then you can request another room. I have never been in a hotel room where you don't have to go through a series of menus to get any PPV programming. As for me, if I walk into a hotel room and smell stale smoke, I ask for another room.
So what's the big deal?
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