Others not obsessed with "Packing Light?"
#76
Join Date: May 2010
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It really isn't always within sight unless it's under the seat in front of you and you never leave your seat. Theft from carry-ons happens too, and it's increasing faster than theft from checked bags. Personally, my carry on fits under the seat in front of me, but that's because I also check a bag
But the theft thing is more of an added bonus and/or justification. Really, I just want to make sure I'm comfortable carrying everything I bring with me for most of the day, say if I take a red eye somewhere and get in at 6 in the morning and have to bum around town until 3 or 4pm when I can check into a room. Sure, with a bit of effort you can usually find someplace to stash your bags, but you have to go to the trouble of both finding that place and then getting back to it. It's easier to just have something that is easy to carry. But that's a very different style of travel than people who are traveling for business, have a hotel already booked, rent a car or take a taxi straight there, etc...
My business travel tends to be short trips of 3 or 4 days max, so still easy to fit everything in a backpack...but that wouldn't be as easy for longer trips, or if I traveled more often to cold weather spots, or needed more gear, or anyone of a thousand reasons. So no judgement, except of the most gentle joshing kind, for those who need or want to travel heavier.
#77
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Carousel is airport dependent, 20 minutes is a good average - even intra-EU, with no immigration or stuff.
#78
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The advantages of getting someone else to carry my stuff and not worry about packing extra stuff I might or might not need, or stuff that's banned from the cabin outweigh the perceived disadvantages of losing c. 1 hour per week (even using your figures) dealing with it at either end.
In addition, that 1 hour is not lost time. If someone wanted to work on a tablet or make calls or whatever they could do that during the wait.
In addition, that 1 hour is not lost time. If someone wanted to work on a tablet or make calls or whatever they could do that during the wait.
For 1-2 (maybe even 3) nights I pack only a RedOxx Miniboss, which, even full is still within the "personal item" dimensions.
For longer trips (under 7 nights) an alu-Rimowa 2 wheeler gets the extra stuff, which often includes a DSLR body and one or two objectives. If needed, I can check/gate check it, otherwise it comes onboard. "Carrying", ie rolling behind means those few hundred meters one needs to walk from security to lounge to gate.
And no, I do not do any work near the carousel. Phone calls I can make from the taxi, too
But hey, to each his/her own. If someone wants to check luggage, who am I to say no?
#79
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The waits for baggage claim vary. On domestic flights in the US, 20 minutes is not uncommon, especially on late evening arrivals when ground ops staffing is light. On international trips when passport checks are required, the wait for bags becomes virtually nil. By the time one finishes with passport control, the bags are usually on the carousel.
#80
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Depends on the type of travel. For vacation, that's great. 80% of my travel is for work and I'm often coming from/going to the airport directly from meetings in which case it's awkward to roll into a meeting with a giant checked bag but a small rollaboard is fine. That plus the fact that I used to do a lot of trips where it was a different city every day so if the checked bag got lost it was an issue. Ultimately I realized that it was possible to fit everything I needed into a small bag (assuming no 8Kg weight restrictions like on LH). I'll often pack a foldable bag inside my roller if I'm planning to buy a lot of stuff at my destination.
#81
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no - Agreed that this is usually true when going to a country where you have to go into the non-citizen line (or non-EU line). Though for me arriving into the US with GE (and no 1st class or priority bag tags), if the GE line is short, I can find myself waiting for quite a while at the baggage claim (and then wishing that I didn't check a bag!).
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#83
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Of if you're a budget traveler that rather likes to max out on the Delta and Alaska 20 minute bag guarantees, which can get you more miles for being 23 minutes from open door to carousel than you got on your paid ticket in some cases.
#84
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Every time one of these threads pop up they make me chuckle. Personally as a leisure traveler I almost always will check a bag but if it's only a couple day trip and I can get by with carry on only I will. If I had to travel for work a lot I'd probably be firmly in the "no checking unless absolutely necessary" camp too. There's no right or wrong way to pack for a trip (unless you're one of those pax that tries to bring 9 carry on items on the plane!) so pick whatever works best for your trip be it checking a bag or not.
#85
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I don't know if AA Gold gets me an AS bag or not, although I do take 'em up on their F upgrades semi-often. How easy is it to claim the miles? How many miles do you get if the bags show up 3 minutes late? I assume I'd need an AS FF#, right? (e.g., They wouldn't "pay" me in AA miles....)
#86
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In my case, I had most of my clothing in my carry ons - I was not surprised that there were baggage issues, even with originally planned 3 hour and 2 hour connections (we also were arriving 2 days before we were needed). My checked luggage consisted of 3 70 lb bags, filled mostly with items to be used while I was doing my work in Africa, not clothing. The bags did arrive on the next day flight, so thankfully we didn't have to figure out a way to source the missing items in order to do our work. But no delivery of bags. I had to go back to the airport to clear the bags through customs which was an adventure on its own.
It was just annoying to be lectured that I should've carried my bags on the plane with me which was not the question that I asked and was an answer that didn't help me once I was already at my destination without my bags.
It was just annoying to be lectured that I should've carried my bags on the plane with me which was not the question that I asked and was an answer that didn't help me once I was already at my destination without my bags.
The reality is that if an item MUST arrive at the destination at the same time you do, carrying it on to the plane is the only way to 100% guarantee that will happen. Even premium package delivery services such as FedEx can lose shipments (though that is a rare event).
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#88
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My most recent successful DL bag claim was the domestic termination of an international award ticket (ie. free bags included), and they've got the system so automated you just go to the correct page, enter passenger and ticket info, and it checked their database and the miles credited to my FF account within five minutes or so.
Not sure about the AS process.
I have no status on DL so I'd never be checking a bag there to begin with.
I don't know if AA Gold gets me an AS bag or not, although I do take 'em up on their F upgrades semi-often. How easy is it to claim the miles? How many miles do you get if the bags show up 3 minutes late? I assume I'd need an AS FF#, right? (e.g., They wouldn't "pay" me in AA miles....)
I don't know if AA Gold gets me an AS bag or not, although I do take 'em up on their F upgrades semi-often. How easy is it to claim the miles? How many miles do you get if the bags show up 3 minutes late? I assume I'd need an AS FF#, right? (e.g., They wouldn't "pay" me in AA miles....)
Not sure about the AS process.
#89
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My most recent successful DL bag claim was the domestic termination of an international award ticket (ie. free bags included), and they've got the system so automated you just go to the correct page, enter passenger and ticket info, and it checked their database and the miles credited to my FF account within five minutes or so.
Not sure about the AS process.
My most recent successful DL bag claim was the domestic termination of an international award ticket (ie. free bags included), and they've got the system so automated you just go to the correct page, enter passenger and ticket info, and it checked their database and the miles credited to my FF account within five minutes or so.
Not sure about the AS process.
My parents waited 40 minutes for their bags on a Monday at JFK and I attempted to submit the claim for them on a Friday and could not. So you must submit a claim with haste if you believe you are due miles.
#90
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Well something along the lines of "This is how you track your bag status" or "This is how you file the claim" or in my specific case, I found out after the fact that, per that airline's policy at the time, I should've been given a visa debit card with a small amount preloaded in order to buy necessities, which did not happen. Even just getting no responses at all would've been better than having people get on their high horses about how they never check bags.