When discussing IDB why are we so afraid to use the F word?
May 20, 2016, 2:50 pm
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And those seats that they don't sell would reduce the number of discounted tickets available; not full fare tickets. Situations where you see "Only 3 seats left at this price" now would be a higher price without overbooking.
May 20, 2016, 8:38 pm
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Most airlines don't raise the authorization until close to departure for this exact reason. There is no point in taking a few extra APEX fares that are likely to show up. They are only willing to overbook for medium to high yield pax who are less likely to show up.
May 20, 2016, 9:05 pm
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Which is why I feel the IDB compensation is too low. It should be high enough to make airlines make a serious effort to avoid IDBs.
May 21, 2016, 5:21 pm
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Contrary to what the ticket may say, allowing those on non-changeable tickets who have missed the flight to get the next one, which has spare seats, is still quite widespread. It does vary from carrier to carrier, but airlines, like any other business, know that in a competitive environment if you shaft someone you are unlikely to see them again, while if you are good to them beyond their ticket terms the opposite will apply.
May 22, 2016, 12:00 am
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I will say this: as much as we want to bag on airlines when they have IDB...or even when they get stingy on VDB...hotels usually handle this horribly and rental car agencies basically give you the middle finger and tell you to call a cab.
Airlines...most of the time...resolve the situation with a full plane and a few happy VDB recipients. Hotels usually don't attempt any kind of proactive resolution.
Airlines...most of the time...resolve the situation with a full plane and a few happy VDB recipients. Hotels usually don't attempt any kind of proactive resolution.
I've never been IDB'ed but I was told one time by an Econo Lodge that they were full, and it was my fault because it was 12:30 AM. They also charged my credit card. Unbelievable. The only thing corporate would do (Choice Hotels) was to reverse the charge. Big deal, since I could have just done that myself by disputing the charge. I even had elite status with Choice Hotels. They simply don't care. After I used up my points, I haven't been back.
May 22, 2016, 1:44 pm
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Yeah, I just ran into that. The car I had rented wasn't returned, they had nothing to rent me. She did call the one other location that was open at that point (and would have covered the cab fare over there) but they didn't have anything, either. (I was looking for a minivan.) She told me she would call today to tell me if she got anything in--but the phone hasn't rung once. (She was going to call whether she got something or not.)
May 23, 2016, 7:27 am
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May 23, 2016, 6:09 pm
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Which is the correct solution but the same people who complain about the airline IDBing people would scream and yell if you made them pay for causing the problem in the first place.
May 23, 2016, 6:36 pm
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The people who rant here ought to be permitted to purchase a "guaranteed" seat. That means a seat which is 100% yours, no matter what. It cannot be changed or cancelled and it is held for you until the flight closes, not matter the reason if you no show (including a misconnect). The seat would cost more, but to the people here who claim that the carrier guarantees them a seat come hell or high water, they can have one of them and pay for it too.
May 23, 2016, 10:21 pm
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May 23, 2016, 10:22 pm
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The people who rant here ought to be permitted to purchase a "guaranteed" seat. That means a seat which is 100% yours, no matter what. It cannot be changed or cancelled and it is held for you until the flight closes, not matter the reason if you no show (including a misconnect). The seat would cost more, but to the people here who claim that the carrier guarantees them a seat come hell or high water, they can have one of them and pay for it too.
May 25, 2016, 12:09 am
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The people who rant here ought to be permitted to purchase a "guaranteed" seat. That means a seat which is 100% yours, no matter what. It cannot be changed or cancelled and it is held for you until the flight closes, not matter the reason if you no show (including a misconnect). The seat would cost more, but to the people here who claim that the carrier guarantees them a seat come hell or high water, they can have one of them and pay for it too.
May 25, 2016, 12:13 am
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Are there any airlines with IDB risk levels that are not what one would expect?
Expected ones would things like:
* Latest check in.
* No assigned seat (on airlines with assigned seats).
* No FF membership > general member > elite member.
Expected ones would things like:
* Latest check in.
* No assigned seat (on airlines with assigned seats).
* No FF membership > general member > elite member.
May 25, 2016, 12:15 am
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There are major differences among airlines. For example, IIRC the three criteria you list aren't all used by every USA carrier.