Which countries have you traveled to where you felt the least safe in?
May 7, 2017, 11:23 pm
#241
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...happened twice in Itaewon....once I was on my own...they assumed I was US military and 3 or 4 guys were set to jump me, until I produced my Canadian passport.
Same place but with a local girl, these 2 guys started hassling her as we walked.
One guy really got in her face, then I got in his. Bystanders had a decidedly anti-white guy looks about them. Girl I was with flagged a cab and we got out of there quickly.
Used to happen in the Phils all the time.
You'd be at a bar and some d-head would start berating the girl. When you have a 1/2 foot of height advantage on the guy you figure he will back down....but he gets support pretty quickly.
I prefer local places cuz they are cheap and sometimes had really good bands, but many times I'd just end up going to the expat places cuz you had some back up.
Same place but with a local girl, these 2 guys started hassling her as we walked.
One guy really got in her face, then I got in his. Bystanders had a decidedly anti-white guy looks about them. Girl I was with flagged a cab and we got out of there quickly.
Used to happen in the Phils all the time.
You'd be at a bar and some d-head would start berating the girl. When you have a 1/2 foot of height advantage on the guy you figure he will back down....but he gets support pretty quickly.
I prefer local places cuz they are cheap and sometimes had really good bands, but many times I'd just end up going to the expat places cuz you had some back up.
May 8, 2017, 9:00 am
#242
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Please explain to me....
...how going out at night to eat/drinks is "looking for trouble"?
May 8, 2017, 5:49 pm
#243
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The only three times I've been concerned about my life when I have been travelling are:
1) a maniacal taxi driver in Cairo
2) gunshots fired near my hotel in a slightly sketchy part of Chicago, USA; and
3) when driving near Cape Town, being stuck in a roadblock orchestrated by some youths - who were approaching the car - it turns out that they were electioneering and lost interest in us when they discovered we had no vote.
1) a maniacal taxi driver in Cairo
2) gunshots fired near my hotel in a slightly sketchy part of Chicago, USA; and
3) when driving near Cape Town, being stuck in a roadblock orchestrated by some youths - who were approaching the car - it turns out that they were electioneering and lost interest in us when they discovered we had no vote.
May 10, 2017, 2:03 am
#244
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I think what he means is that someone who thinks that people should be intimidated by someone's height usually wear their arrogance on their sleeves. Not always the case in my experience however.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
May 11, 2017, 4:09 pm
#245
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Well unlike you....
I think what he means is that someone who thinks that people should be intimidated by someone's height usually wear their arrogance on their sleeves. Not always the case in my experience however.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
I think many folks with less experience somehow think that a white guy dating a local in whatever foreign culture is looking for trouble. Maybe get out more.
Can you explain my issue with the 4 lads in Itaewon when I was female free?
May 11, 2017, 10:01 pm
#246
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...I lived in Asia for 8 years and would get placements to new countries every 3-6 months. So dating locals was a pretty common recurring event. In many countries I had zero problems(Taiwan, China, HK, S'Pore and Malaysia come to mind).
I think many folks with less experience somehow think that a white guy dating a local in whatever foreign culture is looking for trouble. Maybe get out more.
I think many folks with less experience somehow think that a white guy dating a local in whatever foreign culture is looking for trouble. Maybe get out more.
Does it sometimes - often, in my experience - fall upon the attitudes of how foreigners behave, especially in SE Asian countries? Yeah, it does.
Been around Asia for 20 years buddy - maybe try to "get out more" by spending more than 3-6 months in a country at a time?
May 12, 2017, 12:36 am
#247
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Bangkok just after the coup d'etat. The people are bad enough there without a civil war on the horizon.
I also felt very uncomfortable in Dubai when scratching beneath the shiny surface, although not unsafe exactly.
Oddly enough I've never felt that unsafe in the 'usual' dangerous places (notwithstanding I've never been in an active warzone like Iraq).
I also felt very uncomfortable in Dubai when scratching beneath the shiny surface, although not unsafe exactly.
Oddly enough I've never felt that unsafe in the 'usual' dangerous places (notwithstanding I've never been in an active warzone like Iraq).
May 12, 2017, 8:12 am
#248
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I go where my company sends me....
Does it happen that people have an issue with a white guy dating a local? Yeah, it does.
Does it sometimes - often, in my experience - fall upon the attitudes of how foreigners behave, especially in SE Asian countries? Yeah, it does.
Been around Asia for 20 years buddy - maybe try to "get out more" by spending more than 3-6 months in a country at a time?
I never said anything about being with females - just the attitudes. Jerks will get in trouble with lads anywhere with a stinking attitude
Does it sometimes - often, in my experience - fall upon the attitudes of how foreigners behave, especially in SE Asian countries? Yeah, it does.
Been around Asia for 20 years buddy - maybe try to "get out more" by spending more than 3-6 months in a country at a time?
I never said anything about being with females - just the attitudes. Jerks will get in trouble with lads anywhere with a stinking attitude
I am buddies with people who tend to be a little more worldly...please choose your descriptors more wisely in the future.
What sad little men we have on FT who's limited experiences lead them to believe that some people "ask" for bad treatment.
May 13, 2017, 2:28 am
#249
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May 13, 2017, 3:21 am
#251
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I think what he means is that someone who thinks that people should be intimidated by someone's height usually wear their arrogance on their sleeves. Not always the case in my experience however.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
Also looking for trouble is taking a local girl to a local joint in almost any Asian country.
Although it's often a matter of curiosity for them, wondering what it's like to be married to a foreigner. For younger, single females it also is not unusual for it to lead to questions of how to catch their own laowei.
May 13, 2017, 4:45 pm
#252
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On the other hand, I felt decidedly unsafe when a belligerent policewoman pulled a gun on me while she wrote a parking ticket in San Francisco. I did nothing to provoke that. I was in the passenger seat. She gestured to me to open the window, which I did immediately, and then she proceeded to point the gun with her left hand while she wrote the ticket with her right hand.
May 13, 2017, 11:28 pm
#254
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Did you try to open door/move? Or did you try to reach glovebox? You can get shot by doing that. Sorry if you don't know the realities of US, but some people keep loaded gun in glovebox.
May 14, 2017, 5:00 am
#255
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I find it racist to say that you're "looking for trouble" because you're you're white in Asia and dating a local girl.