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JetSmarter is a membership program that allows members to fly on empty legs of private jets (JetDeals) and seats on scheduled private jet shuttles (JetShuttle).
JetSmarter - discussion and experiences
#61
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver, Hilton Gold, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 1,509
Yep, I've seen that too. Honestly, it makes sense. $144 to fly from Austin to Dallas a couple weekends ago seemed to not be worth their effort to coordinate the flight for me.
My big concern is how things just change willy-nilly. Particularly with the expiration of the credits without warning. If they do things like that now, what's to say they won't change the terms of the program after I sign up and give them $12,000?
My big concern is how things just change willy-nilly. Particularly with the expiration of the credits without warning. If they do things like that now, what's to say they won't change the terms of the program after I sign up and give them $12,000?
#62
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Over-entitled UA 1PMM; JetSmarter; HHonors Gold
Posts: 9,723
As I understand it, they are changing things for non-members. This doesn't surprise me either because their business model is based on memberships.
Just looking at the transcontinental flights, it looks like they are not all full. At least the NYC-SFO flights. Some are barely booked.
Just looking at the transcontinental flights, it looks like they are not all full. At least the NYC-SFO flights. Some are barely booked.
#63
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Los Angeles, New York, Lisbon-Portugal
Programs: BA Gold, UA Premier 1K, Amex Plat, GlobalEntry
Posts: 844
The first NYC-SFO shuttle flight is on 3/18
They just started that route.
The first NYC-SFO shuttle flight is this Thursday 3/17 and is sold out. The return SFO-NYC on Friday 3/18 has 4/12 seats remaining. I'm pretty sure that those 4 remaining seats on Friday will be gone.
The first NYC-SFO shuttle flight is this Thursday 3/17 and is sold out. The return SFO-NYC on Friday 3/18 has 4/12 seats remaining. I'm pretty sure that those 4 remaining seats on Friday will be gone.
As I understand it, they are changing things for non-members. This doesn't surprise me either because their business model is based on memberships.
Just looking at the transcontinental flights, it looks like they are not all full. At least the NYC-SFO flights. Some are barely booked.
Just looking at the transcontinental flights, it looks like they are not all full. At least the NYC-SFO flights. Some are barely booked.
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#65
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SHA, SIN, AMS
Programs: BA, SQ, EK, FB, SPG
Posts: 452
It appears to be a hell of a deal. As I have a relatively flexible schedule, I can make use of their deals both in the US; from coast to coast and LA to Las Vegas , and in Europe. If I can travel coast to coast 1-2x RT per week on certain days of the week, it is a steal.
#66
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 957
I'm in the same boat. I have no use for the shuttles. If they offered a hybrid membership where I could utilize their jet deals (don't even need them for free...just the pricing they were until this past week) I would likely join.
#67
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 350
The same flight I took for "$210" a few weeks ago is like $700 something now. I don't know if it goes straight to profit or if the promo is gone after a larger influx of membership?
The thing is that I get emails from them offering $2000-$3000 flight credit, they are essentially useless now.
The thing is that I get emails from them offering $2000-$3000 flight credit, they are essentially useless now.
#68
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: BA Gold, QF WP
Posts: 12,551
It appears to be a hell of a deal. As I have a relatively flexible schedule, I can make use of their deals both in the US; from coast to coast and LA to Las Vegas , and in Europe. If I can travel coast to coast 1-2x RT per week on certain days of the week, it is a steal.
#69
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Wheels Up, Inspirato Pass, Marriott Titanium Elt, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Pres, Ntl P
Posts: 248
I've been a member for about a month and a half now and have flown six times; 5 shuttles and 1 deal (which was operated by Delta). Overall, I am enjoying the experience. As I live in Chicago and frequent NYC (all shuttles have been to/from KHPN, I'll likely use the KVNY and KFLL shuttles next month when they start) the helicopter transport is a great benefit.
The shuttles were all Bombardier Challenger 850 and the deal was on a Cessna CJ2. Their customer service is decent although could use some polishing. There were a few times where I've requested something and either don't get a response or I have to follow back up. The crews that work the flights have been exceptional. Four out of six flights I've been with at least one other person I was not acquainted with and thus far everyone I've flown with has been great. As far as demographics on my flights: mostly male, maybe late 20s to 50s, varying backgrounds. All very professional and friendly people. If you want to be left alone not a problem, if you want to mingle go for it. No one seemed to mind either way.
Regarding the flight credit disappearing, it sounds like they finally fixed the glitch in their system. All flight credits I've seen had the fine print of "get $xxxx as credit when you become a member!" I found that entering a code when I wasn't a member still gave me credit.
As far as wifi is concerned, it is not great. It's enough to get e-mails through and basic browsing. Since these are not owned by JS I doubt there is much they can do. I'll grab a Speedtest report on the next shuttle I take, here is a report from the Delta Private flight I took however. Also a snap I grabbed at KHPN
The shuttles were all Bombardier Challenger 850 and the deal was on a Cessna CJ2. Their customer service is decent although could use some polishing. There were a few times where I've requested something and either don't get a response or I have to follow back up. The crews that work the flights have been exceptional. Four out of six flights I've been with at least one other person I was not acquainted with and thus far everyone I've flown with has been great. As far as demographics on my flights: mostly male, maybe late 20s to 50s, varying backgrounds. All very professional and friendly people. If you want to be left alone not a problem, if you want to mingle go for it. No one seemed to mind either way.
Regarding the flight credit disappearing, it sounds like they finally fixed the glitch in their system. All flight credits I've seen had the fine print of "get $xxxx as credit when you become a member!" I found that entering a code when I wasn't a member still gave me credit.
As far as wifi is concerned, it is not great. It's enough to get e-mails through and basic browsing. Since these are not owned by JS I doubt there is much they can do. I'll grab a Speedtest report on the next shuttle I take, here is a report from the Delta Private flight I took however. Also a snap I grabbed at KHPN
#70
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,593
Thanks oenophilist for starting this thread.
I've been a member for a more than a year, fortunately at the original price, and am very pleased. I've taken 8 "entire plane only" flights and one HPN-VNY G-IV shuttle. Although I'm not happy with the new shared concept, the new affiliations have brought a lot more inventory into the mix.
I've renewed for another year (fortunately grandfathered at the old rate) and will likely get a 2nd membership for Mrs. SFO (I'll get a referral fee). This will enable us pretty much "buy out the plane" for light and midsize repo flights. The second membership will get us two shuttle seats at no extra cost.
I've been a member for a more than a year, fortunately at the original price, and am very pleased. I've taken 8 "entire plane only" flights and one HPN-VNY G-IV shuttle. Although I'm not happy with the new shared concept, the new affiliations have brought a lot more inventory into the mix.
I've renewed for another year (fortunately grandfathered at the old rate) and will likely get a 2nd membership for Mrs. SFO (I'll get a referral fee). This will enable us pretty much "buy out the plane" for light and midsize repo flights. The second membership will get us two shuttle seats at no extra cost.
#71
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver, Hilton Gold, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 1,509
The email I received six weeks ago said the following: "No strings attached, simply download the JetSmarter app, register and use your invite code FLY1000 for $1,000 of flight credit."
To me, that doesn't set an expectation of membership. Also, I have no problem of there being an expiration date associated with the credit, just that the date isn't shared with customers and only discovered when the credit is no longer available.
To be clear, I managed to get two completely free flights in with my credit, so I'm more than happy. I just am very reticent to invest $12,000 in a membership with a company that lacks some transparency when it deals with customers.
To me, that doesn't set an expectation of membership. Also, I have no problem of there being an expiration date associated with the credit, just that the date isn't shared with customers and only discovered when the credit is no longer available.
To be clear, I managed to get two completely free flights in with my credit, so I'm more than happy. I just am very reticent to invest $12,000 in a membership with a company that lacks some transparency when it deals with customers.
#72
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Wheels Up, Inspirato Pass, Marriott Titanium Elt, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Pres, Ntl P
Posts: 248
Thanks oenophilist for starting this thread.
I've been a member for a more than a year, fortunately at the original price, and am very pleased. I've taken 8 "entire plane only" flights and one HPN-VNY G-IV shuttle. Although I'm not happy with the new shared concept, the new affiliations have brought a lot more inventory into the mix.
I've renewed for another year (fortunately grandfathered at the old rate) and will likely get a 2nd membership for Mrs. SFO (I'll get a referral fee). This will enable us pretty much "buy out the plane" for light and midsize repo flights. The second membership will get us two shuttle seats at no extra cost.
I've been a member for a more than a year, fortunately at the original price, and am very pleased. I've taken 8 "entire plane only" flights and one HPN-VNY G-IV shuttle. Although I'm not happy with the new shared concept, the new affiliations have brought a lot more inventory into the mix.
I've renewed for another year (fortunately grandfathered at the old rate) and will likely get a 2nd membership for Mrs. SFO (I'll get a referral fee). This will enable us pretty much "buy out the plane" for light and midsize repo flights. The second membership will get us two shuttle seats at no extra cost.
#73
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Wheels Up, Inspirato Pass, Marriott Titanium Elt, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Pres, Ntl P
Posts: 248
The email I received six weeks ago said the following: "No strings attached, simply download the JetSmarter app, register and use your invite code FLY1000 for $1,000 of flight credit."
To me, that doesn't set an expectation of membership. Also, I have no problem of there being an expiration date associated with the credit, just that the date isn't shared with customers and only discovered when the credit is no longer available.
To be clear, I managed to get two completely free flights in with my credit, so I'm more than happy. I just am very reticent to invest $12,000 in a membership with a company that lacks some transparency when it deals with customers.
To me, that doesn't set an expectation of membership. Also, I have no problem of there being an expiration date associated with the credit, just that the date isn't shared with customers and only discovered when the credit is no longer available.
To be clear, I managed to get two completely free flights in with my credit, so I'm more than happy. I just am very reticent to invest $12,000 in a membership with a company that lacks some transparency when it deals with customers.
The specific code I was referring to was SOCIAL which offered $3k credit which in the e-mail stated I needed to be a member to utilize even though it credited to my account when I wasn't a member.
#74
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,593
Update: Confirmed with my JetSmarter rep, as long as the member is on board, there is no "no show" fee if any others in your party do not show.
Last edited by SFO777; Mar 21, 2016 at 4:49 pm
#75
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Wheels Up, Inspirato Pass, Marriott Titanium Elt, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Pres, Ntl P
Posts: 248
My understanding is that the no show fee only applies if nobody in your party shows. I've had other guests on a Rez who had to cancel and I was not charged when it was just me flying..
Update: Confirmed with my JetSmarter rep, as long as the member is on board, there is no "no show" fee if any others in your party do not show.
Update: Confirmed with my JetSmarter rep, as long as the member is on board, there is no "no show" fee if any others in your party do not show.