Would you accept a full refund in exchange for taking down a TripAdvisor review?
#1
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Would you accept a full refund in exchange for taking down a TripAdvisor review?
Wrote a three star review for a three star experience at a VRBO property five night stay in Italy. The owners had subbed out management during the period we were there and the woman they left in charge was an absolute disaster (this wasn't a flat...it was more of a small resort on Lake Como).
After reading my review, the owner emailed and apologized for the poor service we received from their sub, said they rarely take time off from the business but did during the week we were there to accompany their daughter to a sporting event, and offered a full refund...if I would take down the review, stating that a 3 star review (especially from a senior reviewer) would really hurt their small business.
On the one hand, I feel like it was a fair but honest review based on my experience.
On the other, it was clearly a bit of an outlier experience, as every other review refers to the owners/host as the gem of the property.
Unless, of course, they bribe all bad reviewers to take down their less-than 4* review....
We're talking 1300 euros.
Would you take the 'bribe?'
After reading my review, the owner emailed and apologized for the poor service we received from their sub, said they rarely take time off from the business but did during the week we were there to accompany their daughter to a sporting event, and offered a full refund...if I would take down the review, stating that a 3 star review (especially from a senior reviewer) would really hurt their small business.
On the one hand, I feel like it was a fair but honest review based on my experience.
On the other, it was clearly a bit of an outlier experience, as every other review refers to the owners/host as the gem of the property.
Unless, of course, they bribe all bad reviewers to take down their less-than 4* review....
We're talking 1300 euros.
Would you take the 'bribe?'
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Interesting conundrum. What I would expect in this situation is for the owners to make a public response to the review explaining publicly what they've explained to you in private.
I don't even see a way to delete my most recent reviewis it something that can easily be done?
I'd be a big fan of getting $1300 Euros back, but I'm not sure I could bring myself to do this. Something just doesn't feel right.
I don't even see a way to delete my most recent reviewis it something that can easily be done?
I'd be a big fan of getting $1300 Euros back, but I'm not sure I could bring myself to do this. Something just doesn't feel right.
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Yes. It's not even a question. You weren't satisfied and they went above and beyond to make things right. You're not claiming to be a journalist or anything. Absolutely no moral reason not to do it.
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I have done this.
Prior to our trip to Alaska in 2014, I had booked a specific helicopter pilot a year in advance, and paid him a year in advance.
When the day came he met us and said the heli was down, waiting for a part, but he could get us on a float plane. We really had no interest in going on a float plane, but there was nothing else we wanted to do, so we let him take us to the plane, dropped us off, so it had apparently been pre-arranged.
We get back from the float plane, it was OK, just meh, and there were some sales guys asking everyone who came by about booking different tours. I made the comment that we had booked the heli but X pilot said it was down. He told us the that X had had been flying all morning. Clearly he had double booked.
I was pi$$ed. I went on Trip Advisor and told it exactly like it was. Very shortly I got call from X pilot begging me to take down the negative review. That my review would drop him way down since I was a senior reviewer. He would give me a full refund, but please take it down, that was how he supported his family blah, blah, blah.
I told him exactly how I felt about what he had done. That I had been looking forward to his tour for a year. That I loved the doors off heli we did in Honolulu, was extremely disappointed with him operating his business like that, and canceling a year long pre-paid booking.
In the end I did go on Trip Advisor and deleted my review. I didn't change it, I just deleted it, so I know they can be deleted.
Prior to our trip to Alaska in 2014, I had booked a specific helicopter pilot a year in advance, and paid him a year in advance.
When the day came he met us and said the heli was down, waiting for a part, but he could get us on a float plane. We really had no interest in going on a float plane, but there was nothing else we wanted to do, so we let him take us to the plane, dropped us off, so it had apparently been pre-arranged.
We get back from the float plane, it was OK, just meh, and there were some sales guys asking everyone who came by about booking different tours. I made the comment that we had booked the heli but X pilot said it was down. He told us the that X had had been flying all morning. Clearly he had double booked.
I was pi$$ed. I went on Trip Advisor and told it exactly like it was. Very shortly I got call from X pilot begging me to take down the negative review. That my review would drop him way down since I was a senior reviewer. He would give me a full refund, but please take it down, that was how he supported his family blah, blah, blah.
I told him exactly how I felt about what he had done. That I had been looking forward to his tour for a year. That I loved the doors off heli we did in Honolulu, was extremely disappointed with him operating his business like that, and canceling a year long pre-paid booking.
In the end I did go on Trip Advisor and deleted my review. I didn't change it, I just deleted it, so I know they can be deleted.
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I would. Perhaps the only ethical conondrum here is, "by removing my 3 star review it doesn't give the full picture to future guests," to which I would say screw it, 1300 euro more than makes up for it.
Two cases:
1. The owners are being honest. Future guests all get the owners managing the property and get a 4/5 star stay.
2. The owners are refunding EVERY <4 star review. Future guests who end up getting 'conned' by the fake reviews ... leave a poor review and get their stay refunded as well. So no harm done.
Two cases:
1. The owners are being honest. Future guests all get the owners managing the property and get a 4/5 star stay.
2. The owners are refunding EVERY <4 star review. Future guests who end up getting 'conned' by the fake reviews ... leave a poor review and get their stay refunded as well. So no harm done.