Middle seats front bulkhead - other passengers barging through
Mar 28, 2015, 11:15 am
#31
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Whoa, Im sorry I misunderstood. For some reason, I thought OP was referring to people crossing just during boarding.
Yeah, if people are doing this during flight they should be stopped.
Thanks in part to FT, I haven't flown long-haul Y for almost a decade
. I have forgotten the struggle of the people.
Yeah, if people are doing this during flight they should be stopped.
Thanks in part to FT, I haven't flown long-haul Y for almost a decade
. I have forgotten the struggle of the people.
Mar 28, 2015, 4:05 pm
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Mar 28, 2015, 6:25 pm
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Whoa, Im sorry I misunderstood. For some reason, I thought OP was referring to people crossing just during boarding.
Yeah, if people are doing this during flight they should be stopped.
Thanks in part to FT, I haven't flown long-haul Y for almost a decade. I have forgotten the struggle of the people.
Yeah, if people are doing this during flight they should be stopped.
Thanks in part to FT, I haven't flown long-haul Y for almost a decade
. I have forgotten the struggle of the people.
Mar 28, 2015, 8:10 pm
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I'd like to think I'm not a jerk, but unless I'm misunderstanding you, this is a throughway. If I'm on 1 aisle and I need to cross to the other side of the cabin, this is the only path, right? And it is wider than a regular row of seats, as it is bulkhead, so it's not the same. I'm thinking of an international configuration where say, there are bathrooms on both sides, but for whatever reason one side is unavailable (drink cart, etc). I would definitely cross over using that space, although I would try not to step on anyone's bags or feet.
Mar 29, 2015, 12:37 am
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Mar 29, 2015, 1:17 am
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It also doesn't help that airlines are starting to eliminate spaces where you can cross between the two aisles so that people have nowhere else to cross. For example, I was in the bulkhead behind the middle lavs on an AC A333, and the only place in the entire Y cabin you can cross between the two aisles is by the rear lavs. The middle lavs were 4 across with the two between the aisles being back to back with nowhere to cross between the aisles (the bulkhead was basically the side of the lav). It was a huge problem since there isn't a good way to check to see if the other lavs are empty and I was being stepped on the entire flight. Needless to say I wasn't a happy camper.
Mar 29, 2015, 4:04 am
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I endedup in one of the middle middle bulkhead seats on a BA 777 one time - and was having the same problem with people barging over my feet and belongingsh to cross between the aisles as the toilets were just in front of it.
After the second person did it, the person next to me dropped the bassinet table and put our feet up on the bulkhead...... Great roadblock created.... No one could get past the bassinet table without being able to Limbo dance round it!
With a toilet being available on both aisles, as well as more at the back, where passengers could freely cross through the galley, there was no need to barge through a seating row!
After the second person did it, the person next to me dropped the bassinet table and put our feet up on the bulkhead...... Great roadblock created.... No one could get past the bassinet table without being able to Limbo dance round it!
With a toilet being available on both aisles, as well as more at the back, where passengers could freely cross through the galley, there was no need to barge through a seating row!
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Mar 29, 2015, 1:06 pm
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It also doesn't help that airlines are starting to eliminate spaces where you can cross between the two aisles so that people have nowhere else to cross. For example, I was in the bulkhead behind the middle lavs on an AC A333, and the only place in the entire Y cabin you can cross between the two aisles is by the rear lavs. The middle lavs were 4 across with the two between the aisles being back to back with nowhere to cross between the aisles (the bulkhead was basically the side of the lav). It was a huge problem since there isn't a good way to check to see if the other lavs are empty and I was being stepped on the entire flight. Needless to say I wasn't a happy camper.
Mar 29, 2015, 10:34 pm
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CX 777 Premium economy cabin has only one toilet on the right side of the aircraft. If you want to use it you have to cross the bulkhead row 30 unless you want to walk down to economy row 45 to use a toilet there.
Mar 30, 2015, 4:36 am
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The bulkhead row there has a bit more legroom than the rest of Economy - but it's not wide enough to allow those seated there even normal legroom AND a thoroughfare. Anyone climbing through is not only stepping on seated pax feet and belongings - quite often they steady themselves by grabbing their seat backs as well. A total invasion of space, which my seatmate and I stopped by lowering and using the bassinet table for our meals and clutter, as well as using our bags as footrests!
As there are occupied lights for the loos clearly visible on the bulkhead, they don't need to cross to see if the other one is free - but in any case there are more loos at the rear of the plane -4 in total - as well as access to the other aisle through the corridor outside the galley!
Apr 2, 2015, 7:51 am
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I'd like to think I'm not a jerk, but unless I'm misunderstanding you, this is a throughway. If I'm on 1 aisle and I need to cross to the other side of the cabin, this is the only path, right? And it is wider than a regular row of seats, as it is bulkhead, so it's not the same. I'm thinking of an international configuration where say, there are bathrooms on both sides, but for whatever reason one side is unavailable (drink cart, etc). I would definitely cross over using that space, although I would try not to step on anyone's bags or feet.
Theres not a great deal of space. Would you think its ok to shuffle across a normal row just because you wanted to swap sides? What do you do on a single aisle aircraft if you want to pass?
Apr 2, 2015, 7:53 am
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On one TPAC: After two climbs and request not to do so within the first hour of the flight, my well timed lift of my feet from my footrest/carry on and his faceplant onto the floor ended the intrusion.
Unforgivable considering it was the middle section front bulkhead of the 747 where there is a galley and a cross over just on the other side of the bulkhead wall.
Unforgivable considering it was the middle section front bulkhead of the 747 where there is a galley and a cross over just on the other side of the bulkhead wall.
You can see people. There a queue for toilets on the one side and you can see the looking thinking can I go for it? Then suddenly some will just bolt and dive through if they can.
I've had people tutt at me in the past when they've tripped over my feet or asked me to move my bag.
I now ensure there is a huge bag wall somewhere there.