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Old Mar 24, 2015, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
This is all that's going on here. US airlines looking for the cheapest and least consumer-friendly way out of a mildly unpalatable situation for them. Really irritates me and makes me want to move even more business to foreign airlines simply based on principle (even when it may not be the most convenient).
^^^^^^^

And I have moved all my international travel !
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Old Mar 24, 2015, 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by edgewood49
^^^^^^^

And I have moved all my international travel !
With EK having just announced MCO beginning in September, this just became so much easier for me! No more positioning on US carriers in crappy domestic F is required!
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
With EK having just announced MCO beginning in September, this just became so much easier for me! No more positioning on US carriers in crappy domestic F is required!
Rest my case !!!! At least where I am on the west coast I have SEA/SFO/LAX to work with.
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Old May 13, 2015, 10:38 am
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Tim Clark, president of Emirates, makes noise about expanding Europe-US routes:

http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row

I'd love it if it happened but if there was a business case for it, they'd be doing it already.
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:21 am
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haha, this is a joke. When these same US companies outsource jobs to find cheaper labor overseas they claim it's their right to do so, now when this happens to them they are crying foul... ridiculous! I find that hugely hypocritical.
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by wco81
I'd love it if it happened but if there was a business case for it, they'd be doing it already.
agree, especially with their "business" being ME connections/arrivals

i wonder if some flights / discussion is just marketing (US is helping..)
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:36 am
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I live on the U.S. East Coast. I fly to each of these foreign cities
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.

How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by wco81
I'd love it if it happened but if there was a business case for it, they'd be doing it already.
They are doing it already (Italy to US).

I don't think it's particularly logical to work on the basis that Emirates is already covering every single route on the planet that there's a business case for.
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
agree, especially with their "business" being ME connections/arrivals

i wonder if some flights / discussion is just marketing (US is helping..)
How do US-EU flights go against that "business"? At least for the time being they will be operated as DXB-EU-US flights, so they'd still be serving ME connections.
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Old May 13, 2015, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by callum9999
They are doing it already (Italy to US).

I don't think it's particularly logical to work on the basis that Emirates is already covering every single route on the planet that there's a business case for.
Right, my point is that they'd have looked to expand that (TATL flights) already, if they thought it would be more lucrative to enter that market and divert planes from their fleet or buy more planes to do so.

Presumably, if they entered these markets, they'd encounter price wars against the US and EU carriers which operate in them already.

Though the US carriers are now more profitable than ever and a big part of their profitability comes from these international flights (maybe TPAC more than TATL)?
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Old May 13, 2015, 12:10 pm
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some on FT fly to EU via ME (mainly award travelers)

EK stopped JFK-HAM right before the end of their fiscal year

wco81, your/our point was pretty obvious

AppleApe, you might look at melbourne via ME
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Old May 13, 2015, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81
Right, my point is that they'd have looked to expand that (TATL flights) already, if they thought it would be more lucrative to enter that market and divert planes from their fleet or buy more planes to do so.

Presumably, if they entered these markets, they'd encounter price wars against the US and EU carriers which operate in them already.

Though the US carriers are now more profitable than ever and a big part of their profitability comes from these international flights (maybe TPAC more than TATL)?
I know what your point was, I'm saying I don't agree with it! There is no logical reason to think that Emirates are currently flying every single route on the planet that could be profitable for them. They're what, 25 years old? American Airlines are still changing their network now and they've been around 85 years!

I don't know if you read the article they linked to, but that's exactly what they said they're doing - analysing how the route is going to see whether to expand them or not.
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Old May 13, 2015, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by AppleApe
I live on the U.S. East Coast. I fly to each of these foreign cities
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.

How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
For MEL, you can fly JFK-DXB-MEL.
It'll take a little longer than QF JFK-LAX-MEL, but then LAX-MEL isn't daily IIRC.
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Old May 13, 2015, 2:43 pm
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callum9999, EK tried one, stopped, more recently started a second
where is your evidence re many routes that are profitable for them?

kkjay77, thanks. what about other ME carriers (for MEL)? edit - thanks.

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Old May 13, 2015, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
kkjay77, thanks. what about other ME carriers?
EY works decent enough for JFK-MEL route, but QR will require a long layover at DOH.
Other airports AppleApe flies, there isn't too much reason to fly ME3 for now unless I want to try EY F Apartment on points.
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