"Invasion" by Arab Gulf Airlines.
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This is all that's going on here. US airlines looking for the cheapest and least consumer-friendly way out of a mildly unpalatable situation for them. Really irritates me and makes me want to move even more business to foreign airlines simply based on principle (even when it may not be the most convenient).
And I have moved all my international travel !
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Tim Clark, president of Emirates, makes noise about expanding Europe-US routes:
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
I'd love it if it happened but if there was a business case for it, they'd be doing it already.
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
I'd love it if it happened but if there was a business case for it, they'd be doing it already.
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I live on the U.S. East Coast. I fly to each of these foreign cities
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.
How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.
How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
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I don't think it's particularly logical to work on the basis that Emirates is already covering every single route on the planet that there's a business case for.
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How do US-EU flights go against that "business"? At least for the time being they will be operated as DXB-EU-US flights, so they'd still be serving ME connections.
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Presumably, if they entered these markets, they'd encounter price wars against the US and EU carriers which operate in them already.
Though the US carriers are now more profitable than ever and a big part of their profitability comes from these international flights (maybe TPAC more than TATL)?
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some on FT fly to EU via ME (mainly award travelers)
EK stopped JFK-HAM right before the end of their fiscal year
wco81, your/our point was pretty obvious
AppleApe, you might look at melbourne via ME
EK stopped JFK-HAM right before the end of their fiscal year
wco81, your/our point was pretty obvious
AppleApe, you might look at melbourne via ME
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Right, my point is that they'd have looked to expand that (TATL flights) already, if they thought it would be more lucrative to enter that market and divert planes from their fleet or buy more planes to do so.
Presumably, if they entered these markets, they'd encounter price wars against the US and EU carriers which operate in them already.
Though the US carriers are now more profitable than ever and a big part of their profitability comes from these international flights (maybe TPAC more than TATL)?
Presumably, if they entered these markets, they'd encounter price wars against the US and EU carriers which operate in them already.
Though the US carriers are now more profitable than ever and a big part of their profitability comes from these international flights (maybe TPAC more than TATL)?
I don't know if you read the article they linked to, but that's exactly what they said they're doing - analysing how the route is going to see whether to expand them or not.
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I live on the U.S. East Coast. I fly to each of these foreign cities
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.
How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
at least 2 or 3 times per year: Tokyo-Haneda(HND), Frankfurt,
London(LHR), Berlin, and Melbourne.
How can I possibly use EK? Or is there something that I'm missing?
Does EK offer competitive fares on those routes?(compared to
US/Japan/EU airlines)
It'll take a little longer than QF JFK-LAX-MEL, but then LAX-MEL isn't daily IIRC.
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callum9999, EK tried one, stopped, more recently started a second
where is your evidence re many routes that are profitable for them?
kkjay77, thanks. what about other ME carriers (for MEL)? edit - thanks.
where is your evidence re many routes that are profitable for them?
kkjay77, thanks. what about other ME carriers (for MEL)? edit - thanks.
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