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Old Mar 13, 14, 2:06 pm   #1
 
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Smokers on the plane

Who else finds it offensive when someone smells like they just smoked a pack of cigarettes before becoming your seat mate for three hours? Either, they have no idea or they don't care. I want to puke, I think it's disgusting, and rude.
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Meh. Comes with flying. There are a lot of potential disgusting smells on a plane (food, BO, breath, puke, etc).
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Smokers on the plane

The air vent works well for me when sitting next to a smelly passenger. Turn it up full blast and aim it between you and the other pax. That should take care of it.
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Smokers on the plane

I remember when the back 3 rows were reserved for non smokers on UK planes (well kinda remember). Last person I saw smoking on a plane was a pilot who came out of the cockpit into the main cabin for a quick cigarette - local indonesian airline, last year.
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Smokers on the plane

Smoke smell is bad, but not nearly as bad as someone who thinks dousing themselves in strong perfume or cologne before boarding is a good idea. Strong perfume can affect the entire plane very quickly!
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+1 for the air vent
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Smoke smell is bad, but not nearly as bad as someone who thinks dousing themselves in strong perfume or cologne before boarding is a good idea. Strong perfume can affect the entire plane very quickly!
isn't that what Vegas casinos smell like?
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isn't that what Vegas casinos smell like?
That and desperation...
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Given that a smoker can't smell it themselves I would suggest that "rude" is a bit over the top...

Yes.. it is unpleasant.. but no more unpleasant than many other smells people bring with them... from food, or lack of personal hygiene or excessive perfuming.

Why pick just smokers? If they do not attempt to smoke ON the aircraft they are going nothing wrong. Smoking is not (yet) illegal.

The usual sarcasm is clearly invited here... If you cannot cope with entirely normal interactions with other people... fly on a private jet.
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Like with other strong odors (perfume, etc) many smokers aren't aware that the smoke lingers on clothing, upholstery, etc long after the cigarette is smoked. This is especially so if the cigarette is smoked in a very enclosed space.

Best suggestion I have is keep a small bottle of scented lotion/vicks vapor rub to dab under your nose when you fly to combat any odors that you find unpleasant.
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Who else finds it offensive when someone smells like they just smoked a pack of cigarettes before becoming your seat mate for three hours? Either, they have no idea or they don't care. I want to puke, I think it's disgusting, and rude.
Smelly smoker here.

The air vent should do the trick, I have been subject to quite a few (arguably worse) smells before.

Little Story:
I once had a fellow passenger go completely mental over my smell... He shouted something along the lines of "Ugh, this guy stinks, he's a smoker!" to flight attendants (and for at least 50 passengers to hear) as I intended to take my seat. That was when I boarded a plane in Qatar and admittedly must have reeked of smoke (you could cut the air in the smoking room, a bit disgusting even for smokers, but hey - it's an addiction) which was terribly awkward, but I am not sure whether it was more awkward for him or for me. In the end, I was quite happy:
- That guy was a weirdo that played on his bare feet (that I find much more disgusting than smells)
- I was given a nice Seat with more legroom (empty Bulkhead Row)
- Apparently my smell wasn't too bad, as shortly after take off someone else decided it was more comfortable to sit next to me, than in their pre-assigned seat.
- That guy was even more of a weirdo when I left the plane and saw him arguing and fighting with the crew about how terrible everything was and that he would never fly QR again (not sure why anymore, I think it was because of a 30min delay or something).

Anyway, long story short: I do feel sorry when (non-smoking passengers) have to deal with me smelling like I just smoked half a pack (which may just be true ); but I honestly believe that it's not the end of the world and much more tolerable than people smelling like they took a bath in perfume, or have massive body odor.

But since you find it rude cjmcma, what do you suggest we smokers do about it? Spray a bottle of airfreshner or deodorant around us to smell even worse?
Quitting or "not smoking for x hours before a flight" is not an option (quite the opposite is true, any addicted smoker will smoke as much and as long as possible before the period he knows he won't be able to). Maybe bring back smoking flights?! I am too young to have ever been on one and would pay good money just for the novelty... maybe I gotte fly private one day.

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Anyway, long story short: I do feel sorry when (non-smoking passengers) have to deal with me smelling like I just smoked half a pack (which may just be true ); but I honestly believe that it's not the end of the world and much more tolerable than people smelling like they took a bath in perfume, or have massive body odor.
I personally find it much less tolerable than those circumstances. The people with too much perfume or body odor presumably either do not know it (why would they deliberately wear extra perfume just before getting on a plane?) or they can't help it.

Smokers on the other hand know full well that the disgusting smell is on them yet choose to continue putting it there (you call it an addiction - if millions of other people can stop, so can you!). Not to mention they are toxic fumes, not just an unpleasant smell. While I'm well aware that exposure to third-hand smoke in such a situation has a virtually zero chance of actually causing any harm and other things, like air pollution from cars, are worse - that doesn't make being subjected to it any less irritating. Particularly as the smell just constantly reminds me that I'm having to breathe in the same cancer-causing chemicals that have killed loved ones.
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I'm well aware that exposure to third-hand smoke in such a situation has a virtually zero chance of actually causing any harm and other things, like air pollution from cars, are worse
Glad you did at least bring that up.

It's a tricky subject... do you really feel you're breathing in the "cancer-causing chemicals that have killed loved ones", just by smelling smoke from someone's clothes or breath?

Let me guess: You're american? No offense at all, honestly, but I'm sometimes joking that smokers are treated on around the same level as child molestors there.
Reminds me of a TV commercial I saw in California, where the smoke of someone smoking out of a window went up through a window of the next apartment, through multiple rooms, into a baby room and into the baby's crib... Madness! [Edit; I found it so disturbing, I had to google and find the advert]
People buy into this silly propaganda and start treating smokers badly for it, while smokers are more and more limited anyway, while paying through the nose (or the lung) for it. Do you really think the US would want to miss out on 17.6 Billion Dollars of Taxes a year?
In Europe and the Middle East, smoking is much more common still, and being a smoker does not make me a bad person, or threaten someone's health. And, while I did lose a close family member to lung cancer, that person didn't smoke for 28 years before getting it. Maybe it was the smell...
What I'm trying to point out is, that people are overreacting. Effing Salami and Ham are known to cause cancer, yet I see nobody yelling at their Pizzeria. The air is full of much more dangerous pollution than cigarette smoke, and the radiation you're exposed to during airtravel is arguably much worse for your health than someone's smell.

Anyway, sorry for taking this so far off topic, I didn't mean to make this a general smokers vs. non-smokers discussion. Everybody knows that smoking is bad, unhealthy, disgusting and the smell isn't convenient. But I am still not seeing a reasonable suggestion how to deal with it. E-Cigs and Vaporisers could have been one attempt (hand them out for free or little cost at airports and in planes), but of course there's even a witchhunt going on against those nowadays.

I guess if it's really that bad to you, you're always free to ask the cabin crew for a different seat (ideally without screaming or embarassing yourself or fellow passengers).

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Old Mar 13, 14, 4:44 pm   #14
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Smoke smell is bad, but not nearly as bad as someone who thinks dousing themselves in strong perfume or cologne before boarding is a good idea. Strong perfume can affect the entire plane very quickly!
Perfume stench is the worst. Those folks should be left at the gate until they learn proper hygiene.
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When I go out I usually spray the neck area which can waft up into the air quickly. My go to on flying is to spray it on the chest because it has to go through clothing. It usually slows the scent from getting out.
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