You want to go where?

Bolding mine in the above quoted post.

Unfortunately, it isn't arguably harmless, unless you (generic) are one who cares to argue based on no evidence. While the vapor does not contain many of the known to be harmful chemicals that cigarette smoke does, a number of studies have shown that it does contain other chemicals and compounds which have not yet been studied. So it may be harmless and it may not be, but there really isn't enough evidence yet on which to build a solid argument that it is harmless.

Kevin AA

disagree, a mouth cancer-causing product is much worse than water vapor.

Tchiowa

On a 10 or 12 hour flight, my wife simply lies down, covers her head with a blanket, and takes a puff or two. No one has ever noticed.

Tchiowa

Your logic is fine. But since there is no proof either way at this point, his use of the term "arguably harmless" seems justified.

nkedel

You can't be nearly as bad as some of us if you can be married to a smoker; I can smell it on someone pretty much until they next shower, and can't stand being in close proximity with them.

I've been known to wait for the next elevator at work, for that reason.

DJTim

Really - what it comes down to is good research on vaping products. At this time - it's too difficult to even do private studies because there are SO many variants of hardware as well as liquid (juice is the general term). I have a few links, but I don't really think that this is the place to share that information. Feel free to PM me if you really want to research this.

I don't think that anyone is going to roll the clock back and say have a vaping and non-vaping section on a plane. What I think will come is a point where there is some kind of tolerance from non-vapors but that can only come from the respect of people who want to vape. If you disrespect someone's right to not inhale the byproduct of vaping, you can't respect someone's right to vape - it's really simple.


SO - to roll back this thread (see what I did there...) to the OP's question and set some of the rhetoric aside:

• Most airlines do have a "no vaping" policy
• The airlines that don't - most likley will tell you to stop or go further and you could get into some trouble
• If your a vapor - and you go to the lav, it's still possible to set off the smoke alarm (google "hotel room e-cig fire alarm)
• If your see someone vape on a plane and your not familiar with vaping- you may feel weird about seeing it, but it won't kill you

nkedel

Vaping, like smoking whether tobacco (or in some states now, marijuana), or like viewing porn or masturbation is a vice that y'all are welcome to enjoy, in private, or with other consenting adults.

I don't complain that I can't watch my latest Brazzers downloads on the plane. Don't see it as being any different

You want to go where?

Bolding mine

The idea that vaping won't kill you is yet to be proven as you yourself have stated. I think it's pretty clear that it won't kill you today, but that was true of cigarettes as well.

DJTim

Look - harm and "killing" are two separate things. Exposure to small traces of Vegetable Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Nicotine and some food flavoring isn't going to harm a bystander. It's just common sense. There may be a "Rude" factor here, but I think the smell of a burrito, or some some type of food product that fills the cabin with noxious fumes to me is the same thing.

Your much more likely to contract a virus (Norovirus, Flu) on a plane that could actually kill you then the perceived "harm" that's contained in any type of e-cigarette.

Common sense should outweigh the "Princess" factor here, but it won't.

You want to go where?

Seeing that nicotine is known to be a powerful poison, I think it is wise to be at least a teensy bit more circumspect than stating outright that it isn't harmful, especially since there are no studies confirming your statement. There are lots of things which we used to think weren't harmful, but have proven to be. Common sense is so often wrong.

I do agree that Norovirus and flu are more immediate threats to my life than vaping, and even then, I don't go slathering myself in Purell, so I am not terribly worried about the health consequences of someone vaping next to me.

nkedel

If you see someone pull their junk out on a plane, and you're not familiar with male nudity or masturbation, you may feel weird about seeing it, but it won't kill you.

In fact, it won't do you any physical harm, which is more that you can say from the second-hand chemicals of vaping.

If I see someone vaping on a plane, I'll call the FA and ask them to enforce their own policy; every mainline airline I fly has a policy against it.

PaperGlider

Someone was vaping in front of me during boarding and during the 3 hour flight (SouthWest).

During the boarding time, I went to the back and informed a flight attendant. The only thing that was done was an ad hoc announcement "reminding passengers that smoking of any kind was not allowed"

No stong smell may have been oderless. I don't know whether they are consuming nicotine or, more concerning to me, other drugs that may expose others though second-hand vapor.

Proudelitist

As a former smoker, now vaper, and frequent flier, I have to wonder about the people who don't consider alternatives before flying.

There are many ways to mitigate the withdrawl. Buy some nicotine gum. Buy nicotine patches. Personally, I use nicotine snuff...a bit up the nose and it's actually MORE of a hit than a cigarette. Withdrawl has NEVER been a problem. I go on 17 hour flights with connections at airports without smoking areas and I am fine.

So I wonder why some people just don't bother working around the problem..instead they sneak off trying to vape or smoke in the lav or airport toilets

Proudelitist

Only if you do it for years and years daily.

Using it for a few hours occasionally for a flight is negligible at worst. You are getting a bigger cancer causing dose of cosmic rays from the flight itself at that point.

DragonSoul

Or give their drug of choice altogether. Things are definitely easier when you're not constantly looking for ways to get your next hit.