Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 29, 2015, 6:09 pm
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I should explain that "Crash !" from upstairs is perfectly normal Current Operating Procedure 
. Things are not helped by the clock change this weekend, and losing an hour. It's been like a mini-jetlag within the WHBM household all day.
Meanwhile, I've been off for a sneak look at old National AL timetables to see if the Lockheed 10A was in the running for Key West. By 1945, the first timetable I can find where they were already running down to the end of The Keys, they already stated everything was with Lockheed Lodestars - the Lockheed 18. So maybe not.
Speaking of the Chief Handler Of Crashes (I am but a humble assistant in that role), alias Mrs WHBM , I should add that we had a great trip to Key West a few years ago (prior to the arrival of The Crasher), when we drove down Highway 1, always a fascination for me, in a rented convertible I have enjoyed Key West thoroughly every time I have gone there.
. Things are not helped by the clock change this weekend, and losing an hour. It's been like a mini-jetlag within the WHBM household all day.Meanwhile, I've been off for a sneak look at old National AL timetables to see if the Lockheed 10A was in the running for Key West. By 1945, the first timetable I can find where they were already running down to the end of The Keys, they already stated everything was with Lockheed Lodestars - the Lockheed 18. So maybe not.
Speaking of the Chief Handler Of Crashes (I am but a humble assistant in that role), alias Mrs WHBM
, I should add that we had a great trip to Key West a few years ago (prior to the arrival of The Crasher), when we drove down Highway 1, always a fascination for me, in a rented convertible I have enjoyed Key West thoroughly every time I have gone there.
Mar 30, 2015, 6:06 am
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- Eastern, A300 (may have also been a TriStar; I suspect they operated DC9/727 variants as well)
- Continental, DC-10 (wild guess; I don't think the EWR hub was up and running this early, but I can't place AA/DL/NA/NW/TW/UA widebody jets on this route)
- Piedmont, 737-200
- USAir, DC9-30
Mar 30, 2015, 12:05 pm
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I should explain that "Crash !" from upstairs is perfectly normal Current Operating Procedure . Things are not helped by the clock change this weekend, and losing an hour. It's been like a mini-jetlag within the WHBM household all day.
Meanwhile, I've been off for a sneak look at old National AL timetables to see if the Lockheed 10A was in the running for Key West. By 1945, the first timetable I can find where they were already running down to the end of The Keys, they already stated everything was with Lockheed Lodestars - the Lockheed 18. So maybe not.
Speaking of the Chief Handler Of Crashes (I am but a humble assistant in that role), alias Mrs WHBM , I should add that we had a great trip to Key West a few years ago (prior to the arrival of The Crasher), when we drove down Highway 1, always a fascination for me, in a rented convertible I have enjoyed Key West thoroughly every time I have gone there.
. Things are not helped by the clock change this weekend, and losing an hour. It's been like a mini-jetlag within the WHBM household all day.Meanwhile, I've been off for a sneak look at old National AL timetables to see if the Lockheed 10A was in the running for Key West. By 1945, the first timetable I can find where they were already running down to the end of The Keys, they already stated everything was with Lockheed Lodestars - the Lockheed 18. So maybe not.
Speaking of the Chief Handler Of Crashes (I am but a humble assistant in that role), alias Mrs WHBM
, I should add that we had a great trip to Key West a few years ago (prior to the arrival of The Crasher), when we drove down Highway 1, always a fascination for me, in a rented convertible I have enjoyed Key West thoroughly every time I have gone there.
Getting back to Key West, it appears that National commenced flights into Key West back in the mid 1940's with the Lockheed Lodestar....and the runway may have not have been paved at that time. Then, by the late 1960's, I believe National replaced their Electra turboprop service into EYW with the Boeing 727-100 which may have been the first scheduled jet service into the relatively short 4,801 foot runway there.
BTW, my one and only trip to Key West was via Piedmont and their Fokker F.28 Fellowship service. I've never driven on the Overseas Highway (U.S. 1) but am definitely planning to do so one of these fine days.....
Mar 30, 2015, 1:54 pm
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18. NK (Spriit Airlines, previously Charter One) with DC-9s.
22. It is a good thing that graduation is in May, because in August 1981, PATCO went on strike and Princeton Airways ceased operations.
23. EWR-BOS. EA (L-1011), PI , US, WO (DC-10).
22. It is a good thing that graduation is in May, because in August 1981, PATCO went on strike and Princeton Airways ceased operations.
23. EWR-BOS. EA (L-1011), PI , US, WO (DC-10).
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Mar 30, 2015, 5:50 pm
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this sounds like a Southwest route, but WN isn't generally on the radar for these Quiz/Discussion items ... how about a Continental 737-500
- Eastern, A300 (may have also been a TriStar; I suspect they operated DC9/727 variants as well) A300 with one flight a day is correct. No L-1011 service. Also three flights a day with B727-100 equipment, one flight a day with a B727-200 and one flight a day with a DC9-30.
- Continental, DC-10 (wild guess; I don't think the EWR hub was up and running this early, but I can't place AA/DL/NA/NW/TW/UA widebody jets on this route) DC-10 is correct..... but Continental is incorrect.
- Piedmont, 737-200 Correct with three flights a day.
- USAir, DC9-30 USAir is correct..... but DC9-30 is incorrect as the aircraft was actually a B727-200.
23. See my responses above for BOS to EWR service....
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Mar 30, 2015, 5:56 pm
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22. Princeton Airways is correct...... but what was the aircraft type?
23. Correct! And the DC-10 service operated by World Airways continued on to LAX.
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Mar 30, 2015, 6:10 pm
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That could have been either the Britten-Norman Islander or the GAF Nomad. Princeton Airways was not the sole U.S. operator of either, but more short-hop lines flew the Islander than the Nomad.
When I lived in eastern Connecticut, I occasionally saw an Islander operated by New England Airlines on the hop between Westerly, R.I., and Block Island.
I believe that an Islander flies the shortest scheduled flight in the world, from Papa Westray to Westray in the Orkney Islands.
When I lived in eastern Connecticut, I occasionally saw an Islander operated by New England Airlines on the hop between Westerly, R.I., and Block Island.
I believe that an Islander flies the shortest scheduled flight in the world, from Papa Westray to Westray in the Orkney Islands.
Mar 30, 2015, 6:22 pm
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16- it seems to me that we had a question not too long ago regarding LAX<-->SUN service with an America West 737-300 ... perhaps that flight extended SUN<-->BOI
Mar 30, 2015, 6:49 pm
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That could have been either the Britten-Norman Islander or the GAF Nomad. Princeton Airways was not the sole U.S. operator of either, but more short-hop lines flew the Islander than the Nomad.
When I lived in eastern Connecticut, I occasionally saw an Islander operated by New England Airlines on the hop between Westerly, R.I., and Block Island.
I believe that an Islander flies the shortest scheduled flight in the world, from Papa Westray to Westray in the Orkney Islands.
When I lived in eastern Connecticut, I occasionally saw an Islander operated by New England Airlines on the hop between Westerly, R.I., and Block Island.
I believe that an Islander flies the shortest scheduled flight in the world, from Papa Westray to Westray in the Orkney Islands.
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Mar 30, 2015, 7:19 pm
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HP 608: Sun Valley (SUN) 4:30p - 5:05p Boise (BOI) 5:30p - 6:00p Las Vegas (LAS) 6:35p - 7:50p San Jose (SJC)
Op: SUN-BOI daily except Mon. & Tues., BOI-LAS daily, LAS-SJC daily except Sat.
Equip: Boeing 737-300
Mar 31, 2015, 11:59 am
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11. In early 1976, three airlines were operating nonstop jet service on the short hop from Amarillo (AMA) to Lubbock (LBB). Identify all three air carriers and the respective aircraft types they operated on the route.
Okay then - TI and BN are correct, and I don't recall Frontier ever operating a 737 into AMA, so let's go with Southwest operating a 737-200
Okay then - TI and BN are correct, and I don't recall Frontier ever operating a 737 into AMA, so let's go with Southwest operating a 737-200
Mar 31, 2015, 12:20 pm
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... fall of 1994:
17. This airline was operating two daily, no change of plane flights from Newark (EWR) to Anchorage (ANC). Three intermediate stops were made en route by each flight and they were the same stops in both cases. The same aircraft type was operated on both flights as well. Identify this air carrier and all three stops in the order in which they were made and also the equipment.
17. This airline was operating two daily, no change of plane flights from Newark (EWR) to Anchorage (ANC). Three intermediate stops were made en route by each flight and they were the same stops in both cases. The same aircraft type was operated on both flights as well. Identify this air carrier and all three stops in the order in which they were made and also the equipment.
while CO had a dozen or more one-stop EWR-IAH flights, I seem to recall that 737s plied most of the direct routings thru the midwest and the M80 trips went via Florida ... for starters, I'll say these two served Ft Lauderdale (FLL); West Palm Beach (PBI) is a fallback guess
26. It's the spring of 1985 and you are in Kingston, Jamaica. You need to fly to Miami first thing in the morning and discover that two airlines offer 7:00am departures on a daily basis as their respective first flights of the day from KIN to MIA. Identify both air carriers and the different equipment they operated on the route. And, oh by the way, depending on the specific day, one of these airlines operated two different aircraft types on their 7:00am departure with one type being flown six days a week and the other type being flown on the remaining day of the week.
Mar 31, 2015, 1:26 pm
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And good Sunday morning all!
24. In the fall of 1981, NASA and a certain aerospace company had leased an aircraft from Continental which they were operating in a flight test program. This jet aircraft had been previously used in revenue passenger service by CO prior to this flight test activity. What was the nature of this flight test program? Also identify the aerospace company and name the aircraft type.
29. It's a beautiful afternoon in early 1976 and you are having cocktails at a very nice yacht club on Bermuda where you've just completed a sail trip with your old buddy from Santa Barbara. However, on this trip, you did not use your very good friend's catamaran but opted to charter a "bare boat" from a reputable local company. You then ask him, "So where is your boat these days?" He replies, "Well, I'm glad you asked! It's currently moored at a marina in San Diego and I have an idea that you may be interested in! What say we fly to San Diego, pick up the cat along with a couple of lady friends of mine and then set sail for Santa Barbara via Avalon Harbor on Catalina Island?" Well....why not?! You then ascertain there is a direct, no change of plane flight departing the next afternoon from BDA to SAN which makes three intermediate stops en route. And, of course, you book seats in first class. Name the airline you'll be flying on, the three stops in the order in which they were made and the equipment.
30. It's yet another beautiful afternoon, this time on a Thursday in the spring of 1969. You are visiting with good friends on the windward side of the Big Island of Hawaii in the village of Hakalau. Preparations are underway for a gourmet, home made dinner and, of course, you've graciously provided the wine. Then the phone rings and it's for you. An urgent business matter has arisen and your presence is requested for a meeting as soon as possible in Miami. Much to your surprise, you discover there's a direct, no change of plane flight departing in the morning from Hilo (ITO) just down the coast road and better yet, first class is available. This flight makes one intermediate stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the intermediate stop and the aircraft type you'll be flying on.
24. In the fall of 1981, NASA and a certain aerospace company had leased an aircraft from Continental which they were operating in a flight test program. This jet aircraft had been previously used in revenue passenger service by CO prior to this flight test activity. What was the nature of this flight test program? Also identify the aerospace company and name the aircraft type.
29. It's a beautiful afternoon in early 1976 and you are having cocktails at a very nice yacht club on Bermuda where you've just completed a sail trip with your old buddy from Santa Barbara. However, on this trip, you did not use your very good friend's catamaran but opted to charter a "bare boat" from a reputable local company. You then ask him, "So where is your boat these days?" He replies, "Well, I'm glad you asked! It's currently moored at a marina in San Diego and I have an idea that you may be interested in! What say we fly to San Diego, pick up the cat along with a couple of lady friends of mine and then set sail for Santa Barbara via Avalon Harbor on Catalina Island?" Well....why not?! You then ascertain there is a direct, no change of plane flight departing the next afternoon from BDA to SAN which makes three intermediate stops en route. And, of course, you book seats in first class. Name the airline you'll be flying on, the three stops in the order in which they were made and the equipment.
30. It's yet another beautiful afternoon, this time on a Thursday in the spring of 1969. You are visiting with good friends on the windward side of the Big Island of Hawaii in the village of Hakalau. Preparations are underway for a gourmet, home made dinner and, of course, you've graciously provided the wine. Then the phone rings and it's for you. An urgent business matter has arisen and your presence is requested for a meeting as soon as possible in Miami. Much to your surprise, you discover there's a direct, no change of plane flight departing in the morning from Hilo (ITO) just down the coast road and better yet, first class is available. This flight makes one intermediate stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the intermediate stop and the aircraft type you'll be flying on.
29. I believe the only airline that flew to both BDA and SAN pre-deregulation was AA. There are a lot of possible routings between BDA and SAN, but I'll guess the intermediates were BOS, PHL, and PHX, with 707 Luxury Liner equipment.
30. Braniff, 707 via DAL.
Mar 31, 2015, 2:47 pm
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Mar 31, 2015, 4:09 pm
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OTAQ&D Intermission
Folks, I'm currently out of state on biz and thus do not have my reference materials with me. Therefore, there will be a brief intermission with regard to yours truly providing responses to your excellent guesses.
I'll be back in Louisiana this Thursday night and will pick back up where we left off either that evening or on Good Friday morning.
Thanks for your patience! And Seat 2A: the third carrier operating service from AMA to LBB was not Southwest and the equipment was not a B737-200. So please guess again!
I'll be back in Louisiana this Thursday night and will pick back up where we left off either that evening or on Good Friday morning.
Thanks for your patience! And Seat 2A: the third carrier operating service from AMA to LBB was not Southwest and the equipment was not a B737-200. So please guess again!