jrl767

as near as I can recall, the only airlines serving both PHL and SAT in summer '65 were American and Eastern ... how about AA with a 727-100, via Baltimore and Dallas

WHBM

Curiously, Air Wisconsin took their first BAe146 a couple of years before the One-Elevens came to them, there weren't many operators where that happened. And regarding the same "arrangement", they were actually the same aircraft. They were from the first pioneer One-Eleven fleet that British United bought (ordered by the Managing Director there, one Mr. F. Laker), subsequently merged into British Caledonian, sold on after about 17 years service to Pacific Express who ran them for a few years until they went under in 1984, then moved on to Air Wisconsin in 1985.

A year later they were on the market again, and they joined their other former brethren from Pacific Express, who had gone through Cascade Airways until they closed down, at Florida Express. The aircraft went on from there to the new Braniff until THEY went under at the end of 1989. What an unlucky history ! Not finished yet, though, a couple came back over the Atlantic for charter carrier British Air Ferries, based at Southend and doing all sorts of odd work, sub-charters, etc, through the 1990s. One was eventually robbed for parts and was quite likely the hulk I used to see at Southend when I was flying into there regularly around 2002. Another moved on from there to Africa, and is apparently still laying at Johannesburg, the oldest One-Eleven still extant.

Old One-Eleven's never die !

Seat 2A

They just get repainted, evidently. I'll be down in South Africa in a couple of months. Would I be correct that this 111 is wearing the colors of now defunct Nationwide Airlines?

jrl767

that was a great little jet! I accumulated 46 flights on various -200 series belonging to Mohawk (10) and Allegheny (36) between Aug 1971 and Sep 1983

WHBM

This is it, at Lanseria, Jo'burg's second airport. Reg 9XR-RA. Last with the Rwanda Government. Onetime N104EX in the USA.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1064257

jlemon

Well, yes, it is indeed possible....and it would not be the first time!

However, the OAG in question does list "737" as the equipment operated on CP 87 and CP 88 in both directions.....and I wonder if CP Air may have restricted the weight on these flights if they were actually operated with a B737-200.

jlemon

11) Please guess again!

jlemon

27) No, it was not American and the equipment was not a B727-100.

WHBM

Are any other CP flights listed specifically as 737-300 ? CP Air bought three 737-300 in early 1985, a much more capable aircraft. Some operators don't distinguish between types in their public timetables (like Lufthansa nowadays, who don't distinguish between A319/320/321).

jlemon

That is an excellent point. And I believe another example may be KLM.

The February 15, 1985 North American OAG lists all 737 flights being operated by CP Air into Montreal Dorval as being flown with "737" equipment. In addition, all 737 flights into YUL operated by Eastern Provincial, Nordair and Quebecair are listed in this same OAG as being operated with "737" equipment....and we know these three air carriers operated B737-200 aircraft.

So could the CP Air YUL-YVR service have actually been operated with a B737-300? It may well have been; however, the OAG does not specify "733" for any CP Air flight operated into Montreal at this time....nor into Vancouver (YVR) as well.

jlemon

Seat 2A will have plenty of time to address a good sized batch of questions as he's not leaving until late March. He's also not used to referring to himself in the 3rd person but is having fun with it for the moment at least.

Ah, I misread your message over the weekend and thought you were taking off this week! I'll now let the remainder of my currently unanswered quiz items sit out there for a few more days......

Icecat

4) CP Air was operating three daily nonstop flights between Vancouver and Toronto at this time. Each flight was operated with a different aircraft type. Name all three types. Partially answered - Boeing 747, Boeing 727-100 &_________
CP Air also operated the DC-8 on this route. ExSat it was the D8S and on Sat it was the DC-8. Flight #60.

jlemon

4) Ah, but not according to the Feb. 1, 1976 OAG.....it was another aircraft type.

jrl767

11- Delta, ATL-DFW-LAS -- how about a standard 8 (I think the 880s were gone by then, and a 72S just seems too mundane for the Quiz)

27 - airline #1 was wrong, so herewith airline #2: Eastern, DC-9-30, PHL-Raleigh/Durham-Atlanta-SAT

Icecat

But is it right? Heck if I know.
The Jan 76 CP Air timetable shows: a 727 leaving YVR at 830, 747 at 1430 and another 727 at 2359. The April 76 timetable shows the flight I listed. So in this case just using early 1976 didn't work.