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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:06 pm
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15. Also in 1968, this airline was operating two daily DC9 flights between New York LaGuardia and Washington Dulles. The one way coach fare was $19.00. Name the air carrier.
In 1968 Southern started to operated this route: CSG-IAD-LGA
15. SO is correct! In the fall of 1968, Southern was operating two DC9 round trip flights a day on a routing of VPS-DHN-CSG-IAD-LGA. The following marketing message appeared in their system timetable at the time:

Jet Southern Style......Eglin AFB, Dothan and Columbus to Washington D.C. and New York City!

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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:11 pm
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10. SFO Helicopter was operating daily service between San Francisco International Airport and six different destinations in the San Francisco Bay Area at this time. Name all six destinations and the helicopter type flown on the service. And for bonus points, identify the major airline that SFO Helicopter worked closely with at SFO with this business relationship including use of one of this airline's gates for the helicopter service.
Lets start with the bonus question: TWA
From SFO to
#1- Palo Alto
#2 - Oakland Downtown (there no there there)
#3 - Oakland Airport
#4 - Berkeley (Cows in Berkeley? that was a slogan for a diary at the time)
#5 - Marin (hot tubs and peacock feathers)
#6 - Contra Costa which was officially Lafayette
10. An excellent response; however, we are still looking for the helicopter type. Also, I believe downtown Oakland was not served but Oakland Airport was at this time (I flew on SFO Helicopter from OAK to SFO back in the day). So that leaves one more destination to be identified as well. And TWA was indeed the major airline partner.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:17 pm
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16. In 1970, this air carrier was operating daily direct service from San Francisco to Montreal with four intermediate stops being made en route. Identify the airline, the aircraft type and all four stops in the order in which they were made.
This is going to be CP Air #70 737-200 service leaving SFO at 10:45am with stops at Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa finally reaching Montreal just before midnight.
16. Correct! Here's the north and eastbound sched.....

CP 70: SFO 10:45a - 12:45p YVR 1:30p - 6:08p YWG 6:30p - 9:34pm YYZ 10:05p - 10:56p YOW 11:15p - 11:44p YUL
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:29 pm
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10. SFO Helicopter was operating daily service between San Francisco International Airport and six different destinations in the San Francisco Bay Area at this time. Name all six destinations and the helicopter type flown on the service. And for bonus points, identify the major airline that SFO Helicopter worked closely with at SFO with this business relationship including use of one of this airline's gates for the helicopter service.
Lets start with the bonus question: TWA
From SFO to
#1- Palo Alto
#2 - Oakland Downtown (there no there there)
#3 - Oakland Airport
#4 - Berkeley (Cows in Berkeley? that was a slogan for a diary at the time)
#5 - Marin (hot tubs and peacock feathers)
#6 - Contra Costa which was officially Lafayette
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10. An excellent response; however, we are still looking for the helicopter type. Also, I believe downtown Oakland was not served but Oakland Airport was at this time (I flew on SFO Helicopter from OAK to SFO back in the day). So that leaves one more destination to be identified as well. And TWA was indeed the major airline partner.
I think the actual name was San Francisco and Oakland Helicopter Airlines. They initially operated S-62s but got SK-5s in the mid-1960s.

The additional destination: San Francisco Ferry Building?
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:38 pm
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I think the actual name was San Francisco and Oakland Helicopter Airlines. They initially operated S-62s but got SK-5s in the mid-1960s.

The additional destination: San Francisco Ferry Building?
10. Great guess! However, SFO Helicopter Airlines (and that's how they were identified in a July 1967 TWA system timetable complete with a SFO Helicopter service route map) was no longer serving downtown San Francisco and was also operating a newer helicopter model on all flights in the Bay Area at this time. So please guess again!
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 3:48 pm
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Here is a copy of the August 1967 timetable:


So yes Downtown Oakland (Lake Merritt) was served.

I completely missed the helicopter part; It was a Sikorsky S-61N.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Icecat
Here is a copy of the August 1967 timetable:


So yes Downtown Oakland (Lake Merritt) was served.

I completely missed the helicopter part; It was a Sikorsky S-61N.
10. Well, we will count that as correct answer even though the SFO Helicopter route map in the July 1967 TWA system timetable has Sunnyvale being served via San Jose Airport (SJC) instead of downtown Oakland. BTW, Berkeley was served via a heliport located just west of I-80 near the Berkeley Marina on the Bay. I remember visiting this heliport back in the day. No trace of it currently exists. And thanks for providing the SFO Helicopter timetable! ^
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 5:13 pm
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24. In 1990, Alaska Airlines was operating daily nonstop service from Oakland (OAK) to four different destinations, two of which were the usual suspects. Name all four destinations.
Portland and Seattle, then Long Beach and Burbank would be the other two.
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18. In 1972, this air carrier was operating two daily direct flights from Bangkok to Honolulu. One flight made two intermediate stops en route while the second flight made four intermediate stops en route. Identify the airline, the equipment and the respective stops made by the two flights in the order in which they occurred.

TWA - #744- the two stops were Hong Kong and Guam
#742 - the stops were Hong Kong, Taipei, Okinawa, Guam
707-320 equipment.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 6:37 pm
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Good Sunday Afternoon All!

I am currently recuperating from eye surgery this past Friday and am thankful to report the operation appears to have gone well and I am now on the mend. ...
that is indeed good to hear

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1. In the late spring of 1958, Continental introduced its first turbine powered airliner. Service was flown from Los Angeles to four destinations. Identify the aircraft type and all four destinations. ...
I believe all of CO's introductory Viscount service was LAX-DEN nonstops, with the flights continuing to one or more of Colorado Springs (COS), Kansas City (MKC), and Chicago Midway (MDW)


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5. Eastern was serving Evansville, IN at this time with four different aircraft types. Name them all.
let's go with Convair (440?), Electra, DC-7, and 727-100
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 7:01 pm
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4. Orlando was being served via two airports by three different air carriers at this time. There was a very specific reason why two airports were being used by the three airlines. Explain why this was so, provide the identity of the airports in question and also name the three air carriers, each of which served both airports at this time.
Delta, Eastern, and National provided airline service to/from Orlando in the 1965 time frame

prior to the introduction of jet service, all airline operations used Orlando International / Herndon airport; however both the runways/taxiways and terminal facilities at ORL were inadequate to accommodate jets

the City of Orlando and the US Air Force struck an agreement to allow commercial jet operations on one of the two parallel runways at McCoy AFB (MCO), and to construct a suitable passenger terminal (on the side of that runway farthest from the AF facilities, because MCO was a Strategic Air Command (SAC) base hosting nuclear-armed B-52s)
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Icecat
24. In 1990, Alaska Airlines was operating daily nonstop service from Oakland (OAK) to four different destinations, two of which were the usual suspects. Name all four destinations.
Portland and Seattle, then Long Beach and Burbank would be the other two.
24. Correct! Alaska Airlines was attempting to serve several intrastate markets in California at this time in addition to their service between the Golden State and the Pacific Northwest as well as Alaska and Mexico. Long Beach (LGB) was receiving multiple nonstop round trip flights with mainline equipment to and from both OAK and SFO. An additional flight from OAK was flown to LGB via an intermediate stop at BUR. SFO-PSP was also flown round trip once a day as part of a route to and from SEA. There was also a once a day BUR-OAK-PDX-SEA service. From SAN, AS was operating six daily nonstops to LAX. SJC to ONT was flown twice a day and SJC to LGB was flown once a day. And from LAX, there was one flight a day to SFO with continuing nonstop service to ANC (I flew in F on this flight operated with an MD-80 from LAX to ANC via SFO one fine day). Many of these intrastate flights in California operated by AS actually had complimentary snack service in coach as well as in first. Alaska Air would later initiate SNA-OAK service with multiple daily nonstop flights in each direction.....

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Old Nov 24, 2014, 9:51 am
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3. You are in Detroit and need to travel to Sarasota, FL. You discover that one airline has a daily 7:35am departure from Detroit that arrives in Sarasota at 2:08pm. Four intermediate stops are made en route and the aircraft offers first class in addition to coach. Identify the air carrier, all four intermediate stops in the order in which they were made and the equipment.

13. According to its timetable, this airline was operating direct service once a week from Kansas City to Hong Kong. Seven intermediate stops were made en route. Name the air carrier, the aircraft type and all seven stops in the order in which they were made.

18. In 1972, this air carrier was operating two daily direct flights from Bangkok to Honolulu. One flight made two intermediate stops en route while the second flight made four intermediate stops en route. Identify the airline, the equipment and the respective stops made by the two flights in the order in which they occurred.
3. Eastern, Lockheed Electra, routing of YIP-TOL-CMH-CLT-TPA-SRQ. Eastern was the only airline that served both Detroit and Sarasota before deregulation.

Although EA had authority to fly Detroit-Sarasota nonstop, this was never used; shortly after deregulation was enacted, North Central claimed Eastern's dormant authority, and began flying DTW-SRQ nonstop.

13. TWA, 707-331B: MKC-ORD-JFK-ORY-FCO-ATH-TLV-BOM-BKK

About ten years ago, George Hamlin wrote an article in Airways about flying around the world on TWA. Like all of George's other articles, it's very well written and insightful - definitely worth seeking out.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Icecat
18. In 1972, this air carrier was operating two daily direct flights from Bangkok to Honolulu. One flight made two intermediate stops en route while the second flight made four intermediate stops en route. Identify the airline, the equipment and the respective stops made by the two flights in the order in which they occurred.

TWA - #744- the two stops were Hong Kong and Guam
#742 - the stops were Hong Kong, Taipei, Okinawa, Guam
707-320 equipment.
18. Correct! The complete eastbound routing for TW 744 was Bangkok-Hong Kong-Guam-Honolulu-Los Angeles-San Francisco. The complete eastbound routing for TW 742 was Bangkok-Hong Kong-Taipei-Okinawa-Guam-Honolulu-Los Angeles-San Francisco (which obviously would have made for a very long travel interval from BKK to SFO, what with six stops en route).

TW 742 was also part of an "around the world" route being flown by TWA at this time. TW 810 operated daily on an eastbound routing of Boston-Paris-Rome-Tel Aviv-Bombay (now Mumbai)-Bangkok, changed flight numbers to TW 742 as a "through plane service" and continued eastbound. Westbound, TW 743 flew the same reverse routing from SFO to BKK, changed flight numbers to TW 811 and then continued west on the same reverse routing to BOS also as a daily "through plane service".

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Old Nov 24, 2014, 12:46 pm
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1. I believe all of CO's introductory Viscount service was LAX-DEN nonstops, with the flights continuing to one or more of Colorado Springs (COS), Kansas City (MKC), and Chicago Midway (MDW)

5. Let's go with Convair (440?), Electra, DC-7, and 727-100
1. Correct! Before Continental began operating Boeing 707 and 720B equipment, they introduced the Viscount into service on May 28, 1958 with great fanfare. The cover of CO's May 1958 timetable trumpeted this message:

CONTINENTAL AIRLINES - Presenting the WORLD PREMIERE of the NEW and INCOMPARABLE JET POWER VISCOUNT II

This timetable went on to promote the Viscount:

CONTINENTAL AIRLINES - First in the west with jet power flights! Service to Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, Kansas City and Colorado Springs begins May 28. As more of these superb airliners are added to Continental's fleet, the Jet Power Viscount II will be seen throughout the Western part of the United States served by Continental Airlines. You'll appreciate the speed, comfort and luxury the Jet Power Viscount II brings to air travel...practically no vibration or noise...an unbelievably smooth and quiet flight that allows to you to enjoy the beautful interior of this airliner and the personal hospitality of Continental Airlines.

Continental's "Gold Carpet" Service.....

Makes you want to head over to the airport and get on board, doesn't it?

The initial eastbound routes flown by CO with the Viscount included LAX-DEN-MDW, LAX-DEN-MKC-MDW and LAX-DEN-COS-MKC-MDW.

5. Correct! Here are sched examples flown by Eastern in June of 1965 into Evansville (EVV) with the following aircraft types.....

B727-100: MSP-ORD-EVV-ATL

L-188 Electra: BOS-DCA-SDF-EVV-STL

DC-7B: JFK-PHL-DCA-SDF-EVV-STL

CV-440: STL-EVV-BNA-RMG-ATL and BNA-BWG-SDF-EVV-STL

Note the EA Convair 440 service at this time into Rome, GA and Bowling Green, KY......

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