FA dereclines me
Sep 30, 2010, 1:21 pm
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FA dereclines me
AF Aisle seat in Y on A340. (want DL flyers opinion).
I was eating. I had headphones/music on.
The seat ahead of me was 100% reclined, which didn't bother me particularly (I'm 5'10" 180#).
I was ~ 70% recline.
FA points to me, I start to take off headphone to ask what she is talking about or asking.
She then quickly grabs the armrest, pushes the recline button and abruptly dereclines me. I nearly spill food.
I think to myself "..., what a B", but say nothing. After the meal is over, I rerecline to 50% or so and the flight proceeds uneventfully other than occasionally I feel a little kicking from the purple haired man behind me but no comments ever from him.
Question:
-If it's not an emergency (takeoff/landing/disturbance etc), shouldn't she talk to me first and ask/instruct me to derecline?
I would never disobey a FA especially over this issue.
I was eating. I had headphones/music on.
The seat ahead of me was 100% reclined, which didn't bother me particularly (I'm 5'10" 180#).
I was ~ 70% recline.
FA points to me, I start to take off headphone to ask what she is talking about or asking.
She then quickly grabs the armrest, pushes the recline button and abruptly dereclines me. I nearly spill food.
I think to myself "..., what a B", but say nothing. After the meal is over, I rerecline to 50% or so and the flight proceeds uneventfully other than occasionally I feel a little kicking from the purple haired man behind me but no comments ever from him.
Question:
-If it's not an emergency (takeoff/landing/disturbance etc), shouldn't she talk to me first and ask/instruct me to derecline?
I would never disobey a FA especially over this issue.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:30 pm
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Did you ask her why?
Sorry, I find it hard to believe that if you were situated normally in a reclined seat that just pushing the button would cause the seat to return to an upright position, especially with the force you describe.
Sorry, I find it hard to believe that if you were situated normally in a reclined seat that just pushing the button would cause the seat to return to an upright position, especially with the force you describe.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:32 pm
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) Second, she should have also requested that the pax in front of you "derecline."I think requesting that seats be upright for meal service is not unreasonable, but it only works if it's enforced for all pax. It seems unfair to make you sit up, if she left the person ahead of you reclined.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:32 pm
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Ok here's the image:
FA left hand goes to the button
FA right hand goes to the seat back and abruptly dereclines me.
She pushed me up.
FA left hand goes to the button
FA right hand goes to the seat back and abruptly dereclines me.
She pushed me up.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:34 pm
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wifey was reclined too, she said nothing.
per wifey, she had just arrived and immediately attacked my seat.
per wifey, she had just arrived and immediately attacked my seat.
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Sep 30, 2010, 1:35 pm
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Some FAs are quite adept at pushing that button while pulling on the seat back. I've seen it happen more than once, and have even been on the receiving end a few times. The leverage that can be achieved is surprising.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:37 pm
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Sep 30, 2010, 1:41 pm
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I have had this happen to me on Emirates and Qantas. I am 6'0'' 200 lbs and the FA has no trouble hitting the button with one hand and adjusting the seat with the other. Normally I see it though when the person has been asked and doesn't respond.
Sep 30, 2010, 1:43 pm
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My guess, then, is that the person behind you complained. That doesn't explain why she didn't give you an opportunity to do it yourself, but maybe she thought she was being helpful?
Sep 30, 2010, 1:49 pm
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#1 write to Delta, presumably you'd like some points out of the deal (and I think you deserve something - at least an apology and points make an apology more meaningful)
#2 if it ever happens again (has never happened to me!) be sure to ask why this was done - seems very rude at the least and potentially could cause a spill or other problem since you are not prepared for the sudden change.
#2 if it ever happens again (has never happened to me!) be sure to ask why this was done - seems very rude at the least and potentially could cause a spill or other problem since you are not prepared for the sudden change.
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Sep 30, 2010, 1:53 pm
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Sep 30, 2010, 1:53 pm
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#1 write to Delta, presumably you'd like some points out of the deal (and I think you deserve something - at least an apology and points make an apology more meaningful)
#2 if it ever happens again (has never happened to me!) be sure to ask why this was done - seems very rude at the least and potentially could cause a spill or other problem since you are not prepared for the sudden change.
Hopefully the union vote will fail. Flight attendants are a "customer service" position and need to treat the customers with respect. They are not there "primarily for our safety" even if you may hear that phrase used. We're not safe, if that's really the case.
#2 if it ever happens again (has never happened to me!) be sure to ask why this was done - seems very rude at the least and potentially could cause a spill or other problem since you are not prepared for the sudden change.
Hopefully the union vote will fail. Flight attendants are a "customer service" position and need to treat the customers with respect. They are not there "primarily for our safety" even if you may hear that phrase used. We're not safe, if that's really the case.
Delta won't care. It will also be a long while before they take delivery of any A-340s.