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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en...ge_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRe..._lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
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https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
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https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
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http://skyvector.com/airport/
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https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
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https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
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https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
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https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
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https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
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https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
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https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
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https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
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https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
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https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
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https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
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https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
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https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
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https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
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https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
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http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
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http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
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http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
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http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
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http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
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Old Dec 15, 04, 2:04 pm   #121
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Originally Posted by KVS
Are you using the latest version (1.3.2)?
Yes I am indeed... across the top it indicates "KvS Availability Tool 1.3.2"

The SABRE: ITN/UA is just fine.

The SABRE: AuA/*A goes off into lala land after pressing GO and it can sit there for over 1 hou using 100% CPU and not doing anything ... I can click STOP at any time and it terminates the search ...

The interesting thing is with the ITN/UA I see under the STOP button the text "Stop [2K]" ... while with the AUA/*A I see simply "Stop [.]"

Thank-you

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Old Dec 15, 04, 2:23 pm   #122
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The SABRE: AuA/*A goes off into lala land after pressing GO and it can sit there for over 1 hou using 100% CPU and not doing anything ... I can click STOP at any time and it terminates the search ...

... while with the AUA/*A I see simply "Stop [.]"
If there's only 1 dot after [Stop] it means that it cannot connect to the AUA website for some reason.

Try opening http://book5.aua.com/ in Internet Explorer:

If it doesn't bring you to AUA's website, then something in your system/network is blocking your access to that website.
If it does, try re-installing the tool using the SETUP (not manually).
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Old Dec 15, 04, 2:32 pm   #123
 
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Thanks - I will pursue your suggestions ... appreciate your time

PB

Added: Going to the url directly seems to have cleared whatever log jam there was ... I can now use KVS AUA/*A successfully ... thanks.

The only problem is that a direct AC Jazz flight from YYZ-> MSY never shows up -- it is there at the AC website - but not via KVS ... I know that is not an prob with KVS - but the backends it accesses -- oh well.

Thanks again!

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Old Dec 15, 04, 3:18 pm   #124
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The only problem is that a direct AC Jazz flight from YYZ-> MSY never shows up -- it is there at the AC website - but not via KVS ... I know that is not an prob with KVS - but the backends it accesses -- oh well.
Are you referring to this one?:

[KVS Availability Tool - Sabre: AUA/*A]
Code:
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
MSY  New Orleans Louis Armstrong Int'l LA US [KMSY]
     17 Dec 2004

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------------- 
AC        8026   YYZ  12:40     MSY  14:40     CRJ  0  Y9 M8 U0 A8 B8 V0 Q0 L0 R0 I0 N0 G0 P0 E0 T0 H0
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Old Dec 15, 04, 3:29 pm   #125
 
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I found out my error (DUH!) it seems that the time of flight is extremely impt here ... if I change the time then it tells me the AC flights ... I guess I was looking for more of an ALL DAY type of search ... well live and learn!

Thanks for your time!

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Old Dec 15, 04, 4:11 pm   #126
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I guess I was looking for more of an ALL DAY type of search ... well live and learn!
Just leave the Time: field blank for an all-day search...

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Old Dec 15, 04, 4:39 pm   #127
 
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Of course ... now I feel really dumb Thanks ... party on dude!

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Old Dec 15, 04, 6:56 pm   #128
 
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KVS,

Super tool, thanks so much for it

One question: is there any way to select, say, two airlines to display:

i.e.,

not AC, not *, but AC;DL

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Old Dec 15, 04, 8:25 pm   #129
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One question: is there any way to select, say, two airlines to display:
Not at the moment. Current options are: All (ITN & AUA), 1 specific airline (ITN), or *A (AUA).
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Old Dec 16, 04, 5:31 am   #130
 
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Maybe you could replace the lost amex itn connection with the wagon lits itn platform?! As far as I can see this still works fine and gives just about the same information as the amex itn.

Would be great to have three provider options again

Thanks for the tool anyhow
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Old Dec 22, 04, 9:22 pm   #131
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Would be great to have three provider options again
Looks like it will be a "wish coming true" this christmas -- see my next post. Actually, I was already working on that option since last Monday
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Old Dec 22, 04, 9:29 pm   #132
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Exclamation New Version 1.3.3 Released / Replacement for ITN-AMEX / Tool Development Fund

Just in time for the holidays, Version 1.3.3 of the KVS Availability Tool, holiday edition, is now available for download.

Major Changes:
  • Sabre: ITN/CWT method has now been added!
    • It is, effectively, a replacement for the ITN-AX method
  • Seat Map option has been restored;
    • To access the seat map for a flight, simply select a segment, then right-click and select [Seat Map/Book Segment Using ITN/CWT]

Download Link:

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Old Dec 24, 04, 7:46 am   #133
 
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1.3.3 works great. Thank you!
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Old Dec 24, 04, 2:09 pm   #134
 
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How realtime is the information?

I had checked the availability for a RG flight 5 hours ago and it was wide open as per the availability tool- F7 A6 C7 D7 Z7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 L7.... However when I checked in I was told that the flight is oversold in all classes and that they will have to offload people. It is probably because the airline assumes that people don't turn up and keep the flight oversold, because it is very unlikely that too many people in all classes would suddenly decide to fly on the spur on X-mas eve.
Any thoughts?
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Old Dec 24, 04, 3:12 pm   #135
 
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This says to me that they were still willing to sell 7 tickets, due to (as you guessed) no-shows.

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I had checked the availability for a RG flight 5 hours ago and it was wide open as per the availability tool- F7 A6 C7 D7 Z7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 L7.... However when I checked in I was told that the flight is oversold in all classes and that they will have to offload people. It is probably because the airline assumes that people don't turn up and keep the flight oversold, because it is very unlikely that too many people in all classes would suddenly decide to fly on the spur on X-mas eve.
Any thoughts?
Merry X-mas
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