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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

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Old Jun 20, 06, 12:11 pm   #886
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What do the following seat codes mean in the Worldpan text seat plans for LH - B, U & D? I think I've decipehered R(eserved), E(xit row), S(aved for LH elites) and I(nfant). Thanks!
I don't know for sure, as LH appears to use a non-standard seatmap layout: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...45#post2804945

But my guess would be:
{B}ulkhead
{U}ndesirable

Perhaps you could ask a [co-operative] LH res agent (as they should see the same map) and report here with the results ...

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Old Jun 30, 06, 9:12 am   #887
  
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Which method is the most accurate for LX? I get a new result with every method…
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Old Jul 1, 06, 11:33 am   #888
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Which method is the most accurate for LX? I get a new result with every method…
Most likely, Apollo and/or Amadeus: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...74#post2804874

However, there could be other factors involved, in particular the POS: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...80#post2804880
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Old Jul 2, 06, 5:10 am   #889
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How to get full seatmap in Y on Worldspan Text

Hi!

When checking seatmaps on Worldspan text version, it only shows me the first few rows of Y. How do I get it to display the remainder?

Thanks,

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Old Jul 3, 06, 12:47 am   #890
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When checking seatmaps on Worldspan text version, it only shows me the first few rows of Y. How do I get it to display the remainder?
Certain airlines only show a part of the cabin in Worldspan seatmaps. In those cases, you will need to use Galileo, Apollo or Sabre seatmaps to see the rest.
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Old Jul 3, 06, 6:31 pm   #891
  
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SQ SEAT MAPS - SQ228 mel to sin

hello

im just wondering, im trying to get the current seatmaps/avalibilty for the above flight on the 27/7/06. im traveling in "H" class

i have the lite version....and i cant get it to work...it just says its unavalible on that website that comes up.

is that right... will it work or it wont work??

just would like to see a basic map? read most of this thread and it does not get me any clues when dealing with SQ flights

any suggestions would be great

cheers
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Old Jul 3, 06, 7:18 pm   #892
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read most of this thread and it does not get me any clues when dealing with SQ flights
SQ does not offer advance seat selection in Economy class:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.2.2/Platinum - Worldspan Seat Map: 27 Jul 2006/SQ 228/MEL-SIN/744/Y]
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AVAIL: N-NSST S-SMST F-HNDCPD/BSCT  - -AISL SEAT  >INFO SQMAP ( 
TAKEN: . B CL P      L X-UNDESRBL   *-RECOMMENDED SELECTION     
NO SEAT SELECTION
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Old Jul 3, 06, 10:21 pm   #893
  
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SQ does not offer advance seat selection in Economy class:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.2.2/Platinum - Worldspan Seat Map: 27 Jul 2006/SQ 228/MEL-SIN/744/Y]
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AVAIL: N-NSST S-SMST F-HNDCPD/BSCT  - -AISL SEAT  >INFO SQMAP ( 
TAKEN: . B CL P      L X-UNDESRBL   *-RECOMMENDED SELECTION     
NO SEAT SELECTION
thank you...what a shame

this program is great tho, i enjoy it.
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Old Jul 3, 06, 11:27 pm   #894
  
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SQ does not offer advance seat selection in Economy class:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.2.2/Platinum - Worldspan Seat Map: 27 Jul 2006/SQ 228/MEL-SIN/744/Y]
Code:
AVAIL: N-NSST S-SMST F-HNDCPD/BSCT  - -AISL SEAT  >INFO SQMAP ( 
TAKEN: . B CL P      L X-UNDESRBL   *-RECOMMENDED SELECTION     
NO SEAT SELECTION
Correct me if I'm wrong SQ members, but I've always been able to select my seats in advance in economy with SQ.

Regards
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Old Jul 4, 06, 12:55 am   #895
  
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Correct me if I'm wrong SQ members, but I've always been able to select my seats in advance in economy with SQ.

Regards
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umm, i dont think your wrong because i always request seats ... but its not a confirmed seat until your check-in. my travel agent always calls up the SQ and asks them to book my seat position and then SQ explains how its not your seat untill you check in, otherwise if someone ahead in the check-in line wants your seat, they get it. thats why i wanted to see the maps...even if its not confirmed, they have to put you on a seat somewhere and it would be good to know how many people there will be that may want your seat at check-in.

anyway, that how i think it works.
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Old Jul 4, 06, 2:10 am   #896
  
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2SWEETAU,

If you check in online (up to 48 hours before departure with SQ) you'll get a seatmap and should get your assigned seats. Better still, you may be able to select better ones if available. That way you beat everyone who checks in at the airport.

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Old Jul 4, 06, 4:16 pm   #897
  
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2SWEETAU,

If you check in online (up to 48 hours before departure with SQ) you'll get a seatmap and should get your assigned seats. Better still, you may be able to select better ones if available. That way you beat everyone who checks in at the airport.

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i do that already i just make the point that when i check in i find that SQ have already got me in the seats i want due to request by my travel agent at booking.... i just cant wait that long thanks for your help
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Old Jul 4, 06, 6:44 pm   #898
  
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i do that already i just make the point that when i check in i find that SQ have already got me in the seats i want due to request by my travel agent at booking.... i just cant wait that long thanks for your help
If you're travelling in Y, you can call SQ and ask them to put in a particular seat number as a preference into the booking. When seats are assigned 72 hours in advance, if someone checks that note, you should get that seat, but there is no guarantee. FWIW, I usually get the seat I request in Y, both before and after attaining PPS status.
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Old Jul 9, 06, 3:56 am   #899
  
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I booked online and got my selected seats straightaway. And I was travelling in heavily restricted V class fare too.
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Old Jul 10, 06, 5:02 am   #900
  
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Seat maps

Not sure if it is me being silly again, but I have tried many different airlines on different routes, and I cannot get ITN to work for seat maps at all. This only seems to have happened over the last week or so (or maybe since 2.2.1?)

You double click the flight, select which method of seat map, then the class... the ITN page comes up, but with no flights listed on it.

It doesn't seem to be an ITN problem, as I can go to united.com and get seat maps that way... it is just rather long winded.

In desperate need of help!

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