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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
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M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
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http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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KVS Availability Tool

Old Aug 28, 2014, 10:36 am
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Why is the tool asking for capcha all the time now?
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by IncyWincy
Why is the tool asking for capcha all the time now?
Which Method are you using?

Certain Engines may request a CAPTCHA validation if you exceed their velocity limits.
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 4:38 pm
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KVS Tool

Has anyone had trouble using the KVS Tool? I have Windows 8.1 and while it downloads fine, it doesn't seem to run on my computer. Thanks!
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ffman999
Has anyone had trouble using the KVS Tool? I have Windows 8.1 and while it downloads fine, it doesn't seem to run on my computer. Thanks!
Please provide a more detailed description of the issue and/or a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 7:08 am
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Not sure how a Wordlmate thread got merged into a KVS thread.. but ok.

Originally Posted by adiwm
(Disclosure: I am WorldMate Customer Care Team Leader)

The $99 price for WorldMate Gold is the old WorldMate subscription fee which was available for Blackberry devices.

The new WorldMate subscription is purchases in the App Store or in-app for Android users and the fee is $9.99/year. We sometimes have price drops during which the price changes, like when "Shak51" bought it.

I therefore advising you to purchase Gold in your Android device for $9.99/year. We'd be happy to assist you with the purchase or with any other things, please feel free to contact [email protected].
Thanks. I got the email asking for the renewal and the links lead to the 99.99 yearly price. I haven't found any renewal in the app. How do I do this? 9.99 is totally acceptable.
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by nologic
I called AA to check upgrade possibilities for an upcoming flight and they said it didn't look good because the flight was full.

I said: "hmm, when I look at flight xyz it shows, Y7, F5. Does it really show F0 in your system. I'm using ETR. Do you really show F0? Do you know what ETR is? How about flight abc, do you show Y7, F3?"

She responded: "I don't know what ETR is, but I show the flight you are requesting is sold out and yes, I agree that the other flight is showing Y7, F3."

Can someone please explain, reconcile? I thought we were both looking at the same real time data?
It could be a POS issue. Different locations can show significantly different availability. For example, if you are in the UK and AA is using a US POS. As asked earlier, what is the flight number and date?
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
Which Method are you using?

Certain Engines may request a CAPTCHA validation if you exceed their velocity limits.
BA award. I do not use it more than I used it previously which is still not a lot.
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 10:44 am
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Is it possible to filter out an airline? So, for example, if I put [UA] or -UA on the "Filter by Airline Code(s)" line, I would be able to eliminate those listings?

Also, is there a way to force/invoke the calendar option on Award Travel searches; regardless of availability?

Thank you!

Last edited by ohiosux; Aug 31, 2014 at 10:48 am Reason: Clarification
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 3:20 pm
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'GA' maps to '**' in Fares/PSH Method?

When I enter 'GA' as the airline in the Fares/PSH method, I get fare results from multiple airlines - and in fact it seems to be exactly the same results as if I enter '**'. Meanwhile, all other airline codes (that I've tried) correctly restrict the results to just that airline.

It seems this is happening on a variety of routes that I've tried. Can't remember if it worked correctly before (but I think it did...)
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 10:07 am
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Looks like ExpertFlyer was told by Delta to stop showing ANYTHING DELTA!!! as of today.

Even simple things such as flight info! Nothing! When you do a search for anything that specifies DL, you get the following message at the top of the page:

Delta has requested that we no longer offer to you any information on ExpertFlyer pertaining to Delta, and as such Delta flight data is unavailable at this time. More information about the change and how to send feedback to Delta about it can be found here. Thank you for your understanding.

This, of course, is starting a huge uproar in the Delta forum.

I'm very interested in KVS, as I had to decide between EF & KVS a couple of years ago. I chose EF because it seemed as though most people in the Delta forum use it.

I'd like to hear from KVS as to how this new requirement from Delta might affect KVS before I spring for the top subscription level.

Thanx!

DT
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by davetravels
I'd like to hear from KVS as to how this new requirement from Delta might affect KVS
We are unable to provide speculative comments regarding an airline's requirements vis-a-vis an unrelated entity.
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by KQ321
When I enter 'GA' as the airline in the Fares/PSH method, I get fare results from multiple airlines - and in fact it seems to be exactly the same results as if I enter '**'. Meanwhile, all other airline codes (that I've tried) correctly restrict the results to just that airline.

It seems this is happening on a variety of routes that I've tried. Can't remember if it worked correctly before (but I think it did...)
The [Fares/PSH] Engine is unable to restrict the results to certain airlines (such as GA). In such cases, all Fares (incl. GA Fares) will be shown, if applicable.
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
Is it possible to filter out an airline? So, for example, if I put [UA] or -UA on the "Filter by Airline Code(s)" line, I would be able to eliminate those listings?
You can click the Alliance button (e.g. [*A]) and then delete the undesirable Airline(s) from the list.

Originally Posted by ohiosux
Also, is there a way to force/invoke the calendar option on Award Travel searches; regardless of availability?
No, the Calendar list can only be shown when there is no Award Availability on the requested date.
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
You can click the Alliance button (e.g. [*A]) and then delete the undesirable Airline(s) from the list.


No, the Calendar list can only be shown when there is no Award Availability on the requested date.
Thank you for the response. By the way, I can't ever get the BA award searching to work. Is this a known issue? I'm using 7.4.1.
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
Thank you for the response. By the way, I can't ever get the BA award searching to work. Is this a known issue? I'm using 7.4.1.
Mine works fine. Be aware that BA's website changed from a PIN based access to a password based access. Be sure that you can log on to the BA website independently of KVS.
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