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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

Quote:

http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:

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Apr 3, 2008, 9:03 am

#1861

pandaperth

Join Date: Mar 2008

Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere

Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD

Posts: 3,467

Appears to be OK for me - slower than normal but displaying fare rules OK

Apr 3, 2008, 11:00 am

#1862

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by babbyf

The Zuji fare rules don't seem to be working anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

Appears to be OK for me - slower than normal but displaying fare rules OK

Indeed, there are no current issues to report with the Fares/ZUJ Method. babbyf: Could you pls be a bit more specific?

Apr 4, 2008, 7:29 am

#1863

pandaperth

Join Date: Mar 2008

Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere

Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD

Posts: 3,467

Does KVS show ALL fares between two ports?

I ask because, using a local travel agent's web site and searching for 'PER to ORD via NRT on 13-Sep-08' I see two fares, both with AA for AUD1935 and AUD 2133 (the higher fare allows stopovers in TYO and LAX). Yet using KVS' ZUJ Fares, the lowest fare dispayed is for AUD2365 and DotRes' fares are even higher.

The web site is holidayplanet.com.au, if that's relevant at all. I searched this thread but couldn't find anything on this topic

Apr 4, 2008, 4:10 pm

#1864

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

KVS Tool shows all published fares. The fares in question appear to be holidayplanet.com.au's private/confidential/consolidator fares, and are only available via that booking source.

Also, keep in mind that holidayplanet.com.au does not actually support online bookings, so there is no way to tell if the fares shown are even still valid or applicable to your itinerary...

Apr 4, 2008, 8:09 pm

#1865

pandaperth

Join Date: Mar 2008

Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere

Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD

Posts: 3,467

Aha - private/confidential/consolidator fares
Thanks for that KVS

Apr 5, 2008, 6:42 am

#1866

babbyf

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: Qantas Silver, Velocity Gold, Etihad Gold, Hhonors Gold

Posts: 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Indeed, there are no current issues to report with the Fares/ZUJ Method. babbyf: Could you pls be a bit more specific?

I'm getting the error message:

Quote:

Unable To Retrieve Fares:

"ZUJI Australia: Your Online Travel Guru"

""

If the reason(s) for the above error message are unclear, please click the [?] button to review the latest system status announcements.

I am using version 3.1.0.

Apr 5, 2008, 6:50 am

#1867

babbyf

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: Qantas Silver, Velocity Gold, Etihad Gold, Hhonors Gold

Posts: 126

I've figured out why it wasn't working for me. I had the POS set as "AU", but I'm guessing the redesign of the AU Zuji site has screwed things up. But it works if I change the POS to "SG".

Sorry, false alarm.

Apr 5, 2008, 1:10 pm

#1868

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by babbyf

Thanks for the report -- the ZUJ AU POS is no longer valid and will be removed as of the next update.

Apr 11, 2008, 9:21 pm

#1869

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Introducing KVSTool.com

KVS Tool Homepage is now at KVSTool.com

For quick access to the KVS Tool Online Companion, point your browser or PDA device to OC.KVSTool.com

The shortcut for the Registration Wizard is Reg.KVSTool.com

All previous URLs continue to be functional and will be seamlessly redirected to the new domain.

Apr 12, 2008, 8:54 am

#1870

BDA shorts

Join Date: Nov 2007

Location: Itinerant

Programs: DL FO, AA PLT, BD *G

Posts: 402

Holy ****! RTW fares with rules are popping up on Fares/ZUJ! Just put in the same from and to cities. At least, this works for me using BDA...

Playing around with cities I got some circle trip fares to pop up too.

Yay!

Apr 12, 2008, 1:32 pm

#1871

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDA shorts

Nice find!

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/USD]

Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
RT   Apr-Mar

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
CX        YTO    YTO     2388   USD            Sun   3M  SCIR3M
QF        YTO    YTO     2388   USD            Sun   3M  SCIR3M
AA        YTO    YTO     2388   USD            Sun   3M  SCIR3M
QF        YTO    YTO     2693   USD            Sun   6M  SCIR6M
AA        YTO    YTO     2693   USD            Sun   6M  SCIR6M
CX        YTO    YTO     2693   USD            Sun   6M  SCIR6M
QF        YTO    YTO     2896   USD            Sun  12M  SCIR12M
CX        YTO    YTO     2896   USD            Sun  12M  SCIR12M
AA        YTO    YTO     2896   USD            Sun  12M  SCIR12M
LY        YTO    YTO     3555   USD                  6M  HRWLYKE/RTW-KE/
LA        YTO    YTO     3556   USD             10  12M  LCIR22
QF        YTO    YTO     3556   USD             10  12M  LCIR22
BA        YTO    YTO     3556   USD             10       LCIR22
CX        YTO    YTO     3556   USD             10  12M  LCIR22
AA        YTO    YTO     3556   USD                 12M  LCIR22
AI        YTO    YTO     3570   USD                      YRW
PR        YTO    YTO     3647   USD                 120  YAP120/PR/RG RT
IB        YTO    YTO     3963   USD             10       LONE3
LA        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                      LONE3
QF        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                 12M  LONE3
RJ        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                      LONE3
MA        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                      LONE3
AY        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                 12M  LONE3
AA        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                 12M  LONE3
BA        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                      LONE3
CX        YTO    YTO     3963   USD                      LONE3
MA        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
LA        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
RJ        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
QF        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
AA        YTO    YTO     4063   USD                      LGLOB26
AY        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
BA        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
CX        YTO    YTO     4063   USD             10  12M  LGLOB26
IB        YTO    YTO     4063   USD                 12M  LGLOB26
KE        YTO    YTO     4106   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
DL        YTO    YTO     4106   USD                 12M  QRTWSKY4
AZ        YTO    YTO     4106   USD             10  12M  VRWSKY4
OS        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWSPCL
OZ        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
SA        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWSPCL
NW        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
OK        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  QRTWSKY4
NZ        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
NW        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
TK        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
US        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
UA        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
TP        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                 12M  YRWSPCL
TG        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
SQ        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
SK        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
KQ        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
CO        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
CO        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
CA        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
BD        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
AC        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
EK        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
AF        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  LRTWSKY4
NH        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
MH        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
LH        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWSPCL
LX        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
KL        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
FM        YTO    YTO     4132   USD                      YRWSPCL
KL        YTO    YTO     4132   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
QF        YTO    YTO     4267   USD             10  12M  LCIR26
LA        YTO    YTO     4267   USD             10  12M  LCIR26
BA        YTO    YTO     4267   USD             10       LCIR26
CX        YTO    YTO     4267   USD             10  12M  LCIR26
AA        YTO    YTO     4267   USD                 12M  LCIR26
MA        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                      LONE4
LA        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                      LONE4
QF        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                 12M  LONE4
RJ        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                      LONE4
BA        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                      LONE4
AY        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                 12M  LONE4
AA        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                 12M  LONE4
CX        YTO    YTO     4470   USD                      LONE4
IB        YTO    YTO     4470   USD             10       LONE4
MA        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
IB        YTO    YTO     4571   USD                 12M  LGLOB29
RJ        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
QF        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
LA        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
AY        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
AA        YTO    YTO     4571   USD                      LGLOB29
BA        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
CX        YTO    YTO     4571   USD             10  12M  LGLOB29
AZ        YTO    YTO     4813   USD             10  12M  KRWSKY3
CA        YTO    YTO     4813   USD                      YRWSTAR1
BD        YTO    YTO     4813   USD                      YRWSTAR1
AC        YTO    YTO     4813   USD                      YRWSTAR1
AF        YTO    YTO     4813   USD             10  12M  VRTWSKY3
EK        YTO    YTO     4813   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ30

Apr 14, 2008, 1:01 pm

#1872

croberts134

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: HOU

Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K

Posts: 285

Is there any way to search for multiple airports at one time (example: BOS to LAX, SNA and ONT)? I searched for an answer but couldn't find one.

Of course, its pretty easy to search individually and compile, but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.

Apr 14, 2008, 2:36 pm

#1873

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by croberts134

No, as the existing reservation systems cannot handle these kinds of requests.

Apr 15, 2008, 12:01 pm

#1874

khybner

Join Date: May 2005

Programs: BA Gold, SK EBG

Posts: 85

Awards on Star Alliance - KVS says yes, reservation office says no

Trying to book an award seat SIN-DPS on SQ on June 1.

Here is the availability for normal seats:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]

SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
DPS Denpasar Bali Ngurah Rai ID [WRRR]
SÖ 01 jun 2008

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -----------------------------------------
SQ 946 SIN 16:40 DPS 19:10 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 S0 Y0 B0 E0 M0 H0 Q0 W0 N0 V0
SQ 948 SIN 19:00 DPS 21:30 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 S9 Y0 B0 E0 M0 H0 Q0 W0 N0 V0
SQ 942 SIN 09:35 DPS 12:05 772 0 Z0 C0 J0 D0 S0 Y0 B0 E0 M0 H0 Q0 W0 N0 V0

And here is the award seats

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]

SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
DPS Denpasar Bali Ngurah Rai ID [WRRR]
SÖ 01 jun 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------
SQ 942 SIN 09:35 DPS 12:05 772 FS/ CS- YS+
SQ 946 SIN 16:40 DPS 19:10 772 FS/ CS+ YS-
SQ 948 SIN 19:00 DPS 21:30 772 FS/ CS+ YS+

When I call SK resevations they say there is no award availability for any of the flights.

In fact they say there is no seat left even to purchase.

When I go to Singapore Airlines web site I also get no seats for sale.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Apr 15, 2008, 12:10 pm

#1875

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khybner

Looks like SQ had [mis-]loaded incorrect award availability data for that flight into StarNet ...