How to buy a multi-class itinerary? [EK+others]
Feb 23, 2015, 11:50 am
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How to buy a multi-class itinerary? [EK+others]
Is it possible to buy multi-cabin itineraries without splitting up the ticket at 2 purchases and if yes what's the process/OTA best suited for it? Expedia/Priceline/Orbitz etc?
There's a 3-segment itinerary which I can price out as economy easily (and cheaper than if I buy it seperately segment by segment), but I'm interested in the middle-segment be on first-class and the first/last segment can remain on economy. First and last segment on AirlineA, middle segment is on Emirates which I want to try first-class on.
There's a 3-segment itinerary which I can price out as economy easily (and cheaper than if I buy it seperately segment by segment), but I'm interested in the middle-segment be on first-class and the first/last segment can remain on economy. First and last segment on AirlineA, middle segment is on Emirates which I want to try first-class on.
Feb 23, 2015, 12:22 pm
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Often it's cheaper to keep the shorter connecting segments in FC/business class versus breaking the fare to put some segments in coach.
A competent real live human travel agent can do this (and check prices for you), but there will probably be a ticketing fee of about $30. This assumes that the airlines interline, but it can require more expensive fares as mentioned above.
Some airline call centers will do this (and should be able to if the carriers interline or especially are partners in any sense), but they might try to charge a fee too if you're not elite. Others will waive the fee if you cannot purchase the ticket on line, but you might need to HUCA.
A competent real live human travel agent can do this (and check prices for you), but there will probably be a ticketing fee of about $30. This assumes that the airlines interline, but it can require more expensive fares as mentioned above.
Some airline call centers will do this (and should be able to if the carriers interline or especially are partners in any sense), but they might try to charge a fee too if you're not elite. Others will waive the fee if you cannot purchase the ticket on line, but you might need to HUCA.
Feb 23, 2015, 12:26 pm
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This could be tough. Many of EK fares do not allow end-on-end which is required to string 2 fares together on the same ticket. Exact routing may be helpful
Its HNL -> AKL (on Hawaiian), AKL -> SYD (on Emirates), SYD -> HNL (on Hawaiian). I'm interested in only upgrading Emirates to first-class (shower in the air!) and not paying the extra cash for first-class on Hawaiian airlines.
On ITA Matrix, AKL-> SYD fare rules for Emirates say end-on-end is allowed.
I can just buy the tickets seperately but i prefer to be on same ticket, and i think its cheaper also (atleast for economy)
Feb 23, 2015, 12:39 pm
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I did find some HNL-AKL via SYD with various carrier combinations and they are an HA filed fare which allows transport on other carriers. Not HA + EK fares combined. I looked at several EK filed fares on expertflyer and they all said no end-on end.
I looked up a few dates on ITA and it says the same as on EF
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
END ON END WITH EK ARABIAN AIR PASS PERMITTED
Is there a sample date where ITA is showing end-on-end allowed? I was just looking at June 2015 and a random date in 2016
I looked up a few dates on ITA and it says the same as on EF
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
END ON END WITH EK ARABIAN AIR PASS PERMITTED
Is there a sample date where ITA is showing end-on-end allowed? I was just looking at June 2015 and a random date in 2016
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Feb 23, 2015, 1:56 pm
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Interesting. Only has that in the one direction. It also states in sales restrictions that must be on QF or EK ticket stock so probably start by calling both of those carriers call centers and see what they have available
Feb 24, 2015, 12:51 am
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Feb 24, 2015, 6:27 am
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Although I'm trying to figure out what QF means by the bolded parts. This all is getting way over my head. I still have a lot to learn about fare construction
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
FARES WITHIN AUSTRALIA. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER QF/JQ.
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
FARES WITHIN AUSTRALIA. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER QF/JQ.
Feb 24, 2015, 9:34 pm
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Feb 25, 2015, 2:20 am
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Then the EK end-on-end would come back into play. I looked up SYD-HNL and EK filed fares do not allow end-on-end. If OP ditched HA I think it would be easier to get on one ticket.
Although I'm trying to figure out what QF means by the bolded parts. This all is getting way over my head. I still have a lot to learn about fare construction
Although I'm trying to figure out what QF means by the bolded parts. This all is getting way over my head. I still have a lot to learn about fare construction
e.g. you can add a JQ MEL-SYD or a QF MEL-SYD, but you can't add a MU PVG-SYD.
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Feb 25, 2015, 3:59 am
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As others have mentioned.... it might not even be cheaper. I remember asking a UA agent to do this for me over the phone once (UA, Canadian and Hawaiian segments) and there was no difference in fare, sadly.