Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Sep 13, 2015, 12:48 am
#1141
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Why is it sometimes that if I search for AAA-BBB roundtrip that "Multiple Airlines" doesn't always come up as an option? When "Multiple Airlines" doesn't come up as an option, it also stops displaying other carrier's flights when I select an outbound flight. Sometimes this makes it necessary to search for a one way on one window, and another one way for the return in an incognito window to piece together two one-ways on different carriers.
Sep 13, 2015, 4:14 am
#1142
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Why is it sometimes that if I search for AAA-BBB roundtrip that "Multiple Airlines" doesn't always come up as an option? When "Multiple Airlines" doesn't come up as an option, it also stops displaying other carrier's flights when I select an outbound flight. Sometimes this makes it necessary to search for a one way on one window, and another one way for the return in an incognito window to piece together two one-ways on different carriers.
Sep 13, 2015, 7:35 am
#1143
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: TK E+
Posts: 398
It's the same flight whether IST-MLE or IST-CMB. So you aren't looking for a connection, just a single through flight.
Try:-
IST::TK
CMB
If you search for a connection, there may be a rule that prevents you connecting to a subsequent sector of the same flight, ie you cannot connect IST-MLE then MLE-CMB where they are two sectors of the same flight. That may be why the through flight isn't appearing when you search for a connection.
Try:-
IST::TK
CMB
If you search for a connection, there may be a rule that prevents you connecting to a subsequent sector of the same flight, ie you cannot connect IST-MLE then MLE-CMB where they are two sectors of the same flight. That may be why the through flight isn't appearing when you search for a connection.
Sep 13, 2015, 7:38 am
#1145
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Sep 13, 2015, 7:40 am
#1146
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For instance, LBA-LHR-BOS-ROC could be covered by an F fare, but you would be booked into J/F/Y on the individual sectors.
Sep 13, 2015, 2:57 pm
#1147
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
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That would be irrelevant since I'm allowed to do two separate one-way bookings for the same price, which I usually am. (or even if it's not the same price, to allow me to book separately). It has done it many times in the past (for example, BOS-XXX-SAN, then SAN-YYY-BOS with the multi-carrier option it showed me that it was less to fly to SAN on UA, and return on DL)
Sep 13, 2015, 3:30 pm
#1148
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Why is it sometimes that if I search for AAA-BBB roundtrip that "Multiple Airlines" doesn't always come up as an option? When "Multiple Airlines" doesn't come up as an option, it also stops displaying other carrier's flights when I select an outbound flight. Sometimes this makes it necessary to search for a one way on one window, and another one way for the return in an incognito window to piece together two one-ways on different carriers.
That would be irrelevant since I'm allowed to do two separate one-way bookings for the same price, which I usually am. (or even if it's not the same price, to allow me to book separately). It has done it many times in the past (for example, BOS-XXX-SAN, then SAN-YYY-BOS with the multi-carrier option it showed me that it was less to fly to SAN on UA, and return on DL)
ITA prices you an itinerary that can be sold on one ticket. Using different carriers may or may not allow combinability depending on the rules of the specific fare it is looking at. Then some fares, especially promotional upgrade fares, have stock restrictions that may clash with other fare components on the ticket.
Also there is no need for incognito windows (at least in my experience); multiple ITA tabs work independently in normal mode.
Sep 13, 2015, 4:02 pm
#1149
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/f bc doesn't specify booking classes, it specifies the prime booking code of the underlying fare component. Individual sectors on the component may have different booking classes to the primary class.
For instance, LBA-LHR-BOS-ROC could be covered by an F fare, but you would be booked into J/F/Y on the individual sectors.
For instance, LBA-LHR-BOS-ROC could be covered by an F fare, but you would be booked into J/F/Y on the individual sectors.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...-code-ita.html
e.g. /f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
Sep 13, 2015, 4:28 pm
#1150
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They can be multiple:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...-code-ita.html
e.g. /f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...-code-ita.html
e.g. /f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
Sep 13, 2015, 5:51 pm
#1151
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Location: New England
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[Emphasis mine.]
It would not be irrelevant because you said you are searching for a round trip.
ITA prices you an itinerary that can be sold on one ticket. Using different carriers may or may not allow combinability depending on the rules of the specific fare it is looking at. Then some fares, especially promotional upgrade fares, have stock restrictions that may clash with other fare components on the ticket.
Also there is no need for incognito windows (at least in my experience); multiple ITA tabs work independently in normal mode.
It would not be irrelevant because you said you are searching for a round trip.
ITA prices you an itinerary that can be sold on one ticket. Using different carriers may or may not allow combinability depending on the rules of the specific fare it is looking at. Then some fares, especially promotional upgrade fares, have stock restrictions that may clash with other fare components on the ticket.
Also there is no need for incognito windows (at least in my experience); multiple ITA tabs work independently in normal mode.
As for the incognito windows, I've found in the past where opening two tabs confused the site (but this was a long time ago, and on Firefox) so I do an incognito window to be safe.
Sep 13, 2015, 8:17 pm
#1152
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(Many of the OTAs do use ITA under the skin!)
The OTA could sell it to you as two contracts, as a "hacker fare".
Sep 17, 2015, 5:39 pm
#1154
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: TK E+
Posts: 398
They can be multiple:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...-code-ita.html
e.g. /f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...-code-ita.html
e.g. /f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
Sep 22, 2015, 5:36 am
#1155
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 297
Fare Classes Specified on Multiple Airlines
Hello
I tried to post a similar question on a very old thread, but didn't get any responses...
I know you can do
/f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
for fare buckets on any airline, and I thought the code was something like
/f lh..f|ba..a
if you wanted F on LH or A class on BA. But that doesn't work.
Any ideas on the syntax for that? (I don't mind if I take LH or BA, but would want F on LH or A on BA (those fare classes are made up btw).
Thanks!
LHR*G
I tried to post a similar question on a very old thread, but didn't get any responses...
I know you can do
/f bc=F|bc=A|bc=G|bc=P|bc=Y
for fare buckets on any airline, and I thought the code was something like
/f lh..f|ba..a
if you wanted F on LH or A class on BA. But that doesn't work.
Any ideas on the syntax for that? (I don't mind if I take LH or BA, but would want F on LH or A on BA (those fare classes are made up btw).
Thanks!
LHR*G