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- Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
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To search AA upgrades:
- Use the Award & Upgrade tool
- Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
- To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.
ExpertFlyer.com Help Desk Thread
Jun 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
#32
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: DL SM
Posts: 178
ExpertFlyer: frustrated in using it to find DL flights
I must be missing the point of the ExpertFlyer website. Nearly all my flying is on DL, and heavily international. For planning I use mostly the DL website, kayak, matrix.itasoftware.com, and occasional others. With sufficient time I find surprisingly similar fares among these sites, and can minimize a fare and get a reservation. My trips often emphasize distance (or distance per unit cost) in order to build mileage.
Despite having a premium membership in ExpertFlyer for several months, I have yet to find them useful for finding real flights. Flight availability and fare information seem to be completely independent functions, and mouth-watering fares a fraction of DL's fares are frequently shown. Yet these low fares are nowhere available on sites where you can actually book flights.
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
Despite having a premium membership in ExpertFlyer for several months, I have yet to find them useful for finding real flights. Flight availability and fare information seem to be completely independent functions, and mouth-watering fares a fraction of DL's fares are frequently shown. Yet these low fares are nowhere available on sites where you can actually book flights.
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
Jun 19, 2012, 6:56 am
#33
Moderator: CommunityBuzz!, OMNI, OMNI/PR, and OMNI/Games & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: ORD (MDW stinks)
Programs: UAMM, AAMM & ExPlat, Marriott lifetime Plat, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 23,501
There is a travel tools forum http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools-701/
I'm going to move your thread there as Community Buzz forum is for discussion of Flyertalk meetings/Dos.
Willie
co-moderator Community Buzz
I'm going to move your thread there as Community Buzz forum is for discussion of Flyertalk meetings/Dos.
Willie
co-moderator Community Buzz
Jun 19, 2012, 10:05 am
#34
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: LI, NY
Programs: AA PLT, AAdv since Day One
Posts: 2,682
Perhaps these two guides can help you understand how to use Expertflyer more effectively and how best to interpret its data:
http://www.expertflyer.com/edu-guide.pdf
http://www.expertflyer.com/user-guide.pdf
The Fares section on EF will list all possible fares for a route and, just as important, the rules that need to be followed for that fare. But for a particular flight a particular fare may not be available because the inventory for that particular fare bucket may be sold out.
http://www.expertflyer.com/edu-guide.pdf
http://www.expertflyer.com/user-guide.pdf
The Fares section on EF will list all possible fares for a route and, just as important, the rules that need to be followed for that fare. But for a particular flight a particular fare may not be available because the inventory for that particular fare bucket may be sold out.
Jun 27, 2012, 9:36 pm
#35
Join Date: Mar 2004
Programs: DL PM, DL MM, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, SPG
Posts: 804
I must be missing the point of the ExpertFlyer website. Nearly all my flying is on DL, and heavily international. For planning I use mostly the DL website, kayak, matrix.itasoftware.com, and occasional others. With sufficient time I find surprisingly similar fares among these sites, and can minimize a fare and get a reservation. My trips often emphasize distance (or distance per unit cost) in order to build mileage.
Despite having a premium membership in ExpertFlyer for several months, I have yet to find them useful for finding real flights. Flight availability and fare information seem to be completely independent functions, and mouth-watering fares a fraction of DL's fares are frequently shown. Yet these low fares are nowhere available on sites where you can actually book flights.
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
Despite having a premium membership in ExpertFlyer for several months, I have yet to find them useful for finding real flights. Flight availability and fare information seem to be completely independent functions, and mouth-watering fares a fraction of DL's fares are frequently shown. Yet these low fares are nowhere available on sites where you can actually book flights.
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
Jun 27, 2012, 10:38 pm
#36
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Despite having a premium membership in ExpertFlyer for several months, I have yet to find them useful for finding real flights. Flight availability and fare information seem to be completely independent functions, and mouth-watering fares a fraction of DL's fares are frequently shown. Yet these low fares are nowhere available on sites where you can actually book flights.
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
Is there any ardent fan who can point me to help on this?
For Delta, one unique value point is that only ExpertFlyer shows Z,X,V,G upgrade inventory for DL flights. As a Delta PM, you might find that valuable. Also, since DL upgrades can require certain coach fare classes to be upgradeable, you would use the Fare Information search to determine the relative prices of the upgradeable coach fares vs others.
ExpertFlyer also shows award inventory for SkyTeam partners such as AF and KL. (full list here)
That is in addition to our other unique features such as Flight Alerts (alerting for fare/award/upgrade inventory), Seat Alerts, etc.
Jun 28, 2012, 7:55 pm
#37
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 9
ExpertFlyer/UA website pricing discrepancy question (cheap surf trip?)
I'm new to the site, I found an inexpensive UA booking class K on ExpertFlyer $167 EWR-LIR round trip 19JUL12-01AUG12. When I force the K class on UA website it comes up slightly more expensive ($420 inc. tax) than the S class which showed a base of $306 ($417 inc tax)round trip on ExpertFlyer. Expert Flyer showed K availability on all segments. It appears all rules are met. Any ideas whats wrong or how to get the cheap fare? Thank you for your help!
Jun 28, 2012, 11:18 pm
#38
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
I'm new to the site, I found an inexpensive UA booking class K on ExpertFlyer $167 EWR-LIR round trip 19JUL12-01AUG12. When I force the K class on UA website it comes up slightly more expensive ($420 inc. tax) than the S class which showed a base of $306 ($417 inc tax)round trip on ExpertFlyer. Expert Flyer showed K availability on all segments. It appears all rules are met. Any ideas whats wrong or how to get the cheap fare? Thank you for your help!
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Fare Information Search:
Departing EWR on 07/19/12 for LIR
Returning on 08/01/12
Flying UA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
KNX0C9LS UA K Round-Trip 327.00 (USD) E 02 / --
SNN4A5LN UA S Round-Trip 330.00 (USD) E 14
KNN0C9LS UA K Round-Trip 347.00 (USD) E 02 / --
VNN4A5LN UA V Round-Trip 370.00 (USD) E 14
VNN7A5LN UA V Round-Trip 378.00 (USD) E 07
QNN4A5LN UA Q Round-Trip 450.00 (USD) E 14
SNX4A9LS UA S Round-Trip 466.00 (USD) E 14
HNX4A5LN UA H Round-Trip 538.00 (USD) E 14
HNN4A5LN UA H Round-Trip 540.00 (USD) E 14
UNN7A5LN UA U Round-Trip 550.00 (USD) E 07
UNX7A5LN UA U Round-Trip 618.00 (USD) E 07
UNN0A5LN UA U Round-Trip 640.00 (USD) E
ENN0A5LN UA E Round-Trip 690.00 (USD) E
ENX0A5LN UA E Round-Trip 708.00 (USD) E
MNN0A5LN UA M Round-Trip 850.00 (USD) E
BNN0A5LN UA B Round-Trip 970.00 (USD) E
ZNX4E9LN UA Z Round-Trip 1082.00 (USD) B SU / -- 14
ZNX1C9LN UA Z Round-Trip 1182.00 (USD) B 02 / -- 10
DNX3C9LN UA D Round-Trip 1302.00 (USD) B 02 / -- 03
YNN0A9LY UA Y Round-Trip 1380.00 (USD) E
DNN0A9LY UA D Round-Trip 1802.00 (USD) B
CNN0A9LY UA C Round-Trip 1962.00 (USD) B
JNN0A9LY UA J Round-Trip 2142.00 (USD) B
Jul 2, 2012, 2:39 pm
#40
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,010
Jul 2, 2012, 2:55 pm
#41
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Welcome to FlyerTalk.
As this was posted initially in the ExpertFlyer Master Information and Updates Thread, we have moved your query into its own thread.
Please take a few minutes to go to the American AAdvantage Forum (link) and look over the "sticky" FAQ thread at the top of the Forum page; there are information and links to relevant threads there, as well as a Wiki, that will answer your questions.
JDiver, Senior Moderator
As this was posted initially in the ExpertFlyer Master Information and Updates Thread, we have moved your query into its own thread.
Please take a few minutes to go to the American AAdvantage Forum (link) and look over the "sticky" FAQ thread at the top of the Forum page; there are information and links to relevant threads there, as well as a Wiki, that will answer your questions.
JDiver, Senior Moderator
Last edited by JDiver; Jul 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Jul 2, 2012, 3:03 pm
#42
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
http://www.expertflyer.com/new-to-expertflyer and read the EduGuide, it explains availability, fares and the relationship between them. If you still have questions, feel free to post here or email us.
Jul 3, 2012, 6:21 am
#43
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: hilton spg aa
Posts: 28
Looking for published fares on given flight. Specifically, JFK to LHR on 5/1/13, flight 100. Did go over user guide but couldnt find it. Understand it is basic, i just seems not to be able to find the right page.
Thanks
Thanks
Jul 3, 2012, 6:42 am
#44
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,010
You're looking for Fare Information. See page 8 in the user guide.
Jul 3, 2012, 8:35 am
#45
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Please read the EduGuide (not the User Guide) which explains how to do what you are trying to do.