Smartphone with video output
Sep 9, 2009, 4:47 am
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Smartphone with video output
Is there a smartphone with a video output? The idea would be to be able to connect it to a projector or monitor and present a powerpoint.
This would be the real convergence. It should have text editing, PP editing, spreadsheet editing and pdf reading (pdf making would be nice, too). Bluetooth and a foldable keyboard will turn this into the super device. If it's powerful enough I bet people would be willing to pay $1000 for it.
Imagine to be able to do all your usual office stuff from a cell phone anywhere including presentations. Access documents in the cloud. Connect with exchange server. Push email. The full range. Put Apple's remote CD access on there like MBA.
Some venues supply you with laptops and you just put the file on but others don't. I am going to a conference this October where they state explicitly that one must bring one's own computer. PJ is supplied.
For most people that would cut their packed weight by at least 5-6lb. And that's not counting the fact that you could carry a smaller briefcase just for the files. Count another 2lb for the difference between a computer briefcase and a slim portfolio. Some people might even be able to travel without a briefcase. Basically, we are talking about a weight saving of up to 5kg and in many cases going from two bags to one.
The Microsoft Zune HD supposed to debut on 9/15 has HD video out via its cradle. When do you think will something like that be available for smartphones with said editing capacities?
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This would be the real convergence. It should have text editing, PP editing, spreadsheet editing and pdf reading (pdf making would be nice, too). Bluetooth and a foldable keyboard will turn this into the super device. If it's powerful enough I bet people would be willing to pay $1000 for it.
Imagine to be able to do all your usual office stuff from a cell phone anywhere including presentations. Access documents in the cloud. Connect with exchange server. Push email. The full range. Put Apple's remote CD access on there like MBA.
Some venues supply you with laptops and you just put the file on but others don't. I am going to a conference this October where they state explicitly that one must bring one's own computer. PJ is supplied.
For most people that would cut their packed weight by at least 5-6lb. And that's not counting the fact that you could carry a smaller briefcase just for the files. Count another 2lb for the difference between a computer briefcase and a slim portfolio. Some people might even be able to travel without a briefcase. Basically, we are talking about a weight saving of up to 5kg and in many cases going from two bags to one.
The Microsoft Zune HD supposed to debut on 9/15 has HD video out via its cradle. When do you think will something like that be available for smartphones with said editing capacities?
Till
Sep 9, 2009, 6:14 am
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The HTC Touch Pro and Touch Pro2 have video out, and require a $20 cable to make this happen.
Plus, they both come with a pretty decent version of Powerpoint mobile, both have a keyboard (the one on the Touch Pro2 is amazing). I've been doing presentations with the Touch Pro for several months, and it works perfectly. If you want to go hardcore, you can also get yourself a pocket projector - it will only work in a really dark room, but it does work.
All these Windows Mobile devices can create and edit Word and Excel, but they do not have full Powerpoint editing capability. With third party apps, you can do some basic edits like rearrange slides and merge presentations, but giventhe heavy graphics in most PPT's, a full mobile edit is just too much.
The Touch Pro2 is out on T-Mobile for $350, Sprint for $350 and Verizon for $199.
Plus, they both come with a pretty decent version of Powerpoint mobile, both have a keyboard (the one on the Touch Pro2 is amazing). I've been doing presentations with the Touch Pro for several months, and it works perfectly. If you want to go hardcore, you can also get yourself a pocket projector - it will only work in a really dark room, but it does work.
All these Windows Mobile devices can create and edit Word and Excel, but they do not have full Powerpoint editing capability. With third party apps, you can do some basic edits like rearrange slides and merge presentations, but giventhe heavy graphics in most PPT's, a full mobile edit is just too much.
The Touch Pro2 is out on T-Mobile for $350, Sprint for $350 and Verizon for $199.
Sep 9, 2009, 6:50 am
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2-3 years and the netbook/laptops will be on their way out. Welcome to the super-almighty cell phone that replaces a laptop.
[Mark my words]
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Sep 9, 2009, 7:49 am
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Not to mention the ability to watch pr0n in hi-def . . .
Sep 9, 2009, 8:01 am
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What the previous poster said - keyboards on smartphones will never be good enough to replace a netbook. What we'll see is netbooks becoming more smartphone-like, with more integrated 3G (or 4G), better processors and all day battery life.
Sep 9, 2009, 4:12 pm
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ScottC, thank for the tip with the HTC phones. I will definitely look at the Touch Pro. What are your other user impressions of the phone? How's the touchscreen, user interface, web access? I have actually thought about a pocket projector.
As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
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As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
Till
Sep 9, 2009, 6:02 pm
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ScottC, thank for the tip with the HTC phones. I will definitely look at the Touch Pro. What are your other user impressions of the phone? How's the touchscreen, user interface, web access? I have actually thought about a pocket projector.
As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
Till
As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
Till
Instead of a smartphone or Netbook, you could also look into an ultra portable like one of the Viliv machines.
http://www.myviliv.com/eng/product/s5.asp
The Viliv S5 is larger than a Smartphone, but has a full version of Windows.
Sep 9, 2009, 8:45 pm
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Built in USB for external keyboard for your 100+WPM. Piece of cake. My idea is that smartphones will be as powerful as current laptop, have integrated keyboard/screen, and the capability of hooking up an external monitor, and USB keyboard+mouse+etc. In effect, a hyper-small netbook. Or a super-souped up smartphone. I stick by what I said: mark my words. 
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Sep 9, 2009, 9:28 pm
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ScottC, thank for the tip with the HTC phones. I will definitely look at the Touch Pro. What are your other user impressions of the phone? How's the touchscreen, user interface, web access? I have actually thought about a pocket projector.
As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
Till
As for typing, I think it will be totally ok to have to carry a foldable keyboard. So one can type ahead just like on a real keyboard.
The Iphone does have video out for composite and component even. The cable is $49. BUT there is no native Keynote or PP access. One has to convert stuff to an Iphoto Album and present from there. I also don't know if one can hook up the phone to a projector and then use the Apple Remote to flip through slides. I believe that with the universal dock that should be possible. That's another $50.
Wiredboy, are you saying there is gonna be an announcement today? That would be cool. So the tablet could probably do a lot of these things. But does it act as a phone? Can it connect over the 3g network, too?
I know I could find these things out easily but you seem to be in the know so I just ask.
Till
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Sep 9, 2009, 9:34 pm
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I use the ATT Fuze which is the same as the Touch Pro. I have a cooked WinMo 6.5 rom on it and it's much more finger friendly than winmo 6.1.
I don't have the video out cable so I can't comment on it, but I know that it does have that feature.
The most annoying thing is that there is no headphone jack. To use headphones one must keep the tv out dongle plugged in.
I don't have the video out cable so I can't comment on it, but I know that it does have that feature.
The most annoying thing is that there is no headphone jack. To use headphones one must keep the tv out dongle plugged in.
Sep 9, 2009, 10:25 pm
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I did check out the Nokia N97 specs, too. It has video out and has an expansion memory slot plus more pixels for screen and camera and a good keyboard. It's slightly heavier and bigger, of course. One can run PP directly from the phone to present. One can also at least read Word, Excel and Acrobat files. So far that looks like the closest runner-up to the Iphone.
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Sep 9, 2009, 11:27 pm
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Sounds like the Impatica ShowMate?
http://www.impatica.com/products/showmate/index.html
Seems better than video out since it is wireless via Bluetooth. You can walk around with a Blackberry in your hand like a remote rather than be tethered to the projector.
Saw it for $187 from shopblackberry.com
The biggest plus? No need for Windows Mobile. I had the HTC TyTN II. Glad I'm off that boat....
http://www.impatica.com/products/showmate/index.html
- PowerPoint presentations from BlackBerry, Palm, Sony Ericsson and Windows Mobile smartphones
- Screen contents from BlackBerry smartphones with BlackBerry OS 4.2.2 or later and from Windows Mobile devices.
Saw it for $187 from shopblackberry.com
The biggest plus? No need for Windows Mobile. I had the HTC TyTN II. Glad I'm off that boat....
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Sep 10, 2009, 1:56 am
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