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Old Jul 5, 09, 9:11 pm   #31
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Another review:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2348930,00.asp
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It comes with and without the camera for lawyers and some government officials that are not allowed to carry any sort of camera into courtrooms etc. I assume 75%+ will be sold with camera. (I have nothing to base that on)
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Old Jul 7, 09, 10:52 pm   #33
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Here is a decent review of The Tour from a pretty good source.

I think I'm going to go to a VZW store on Sunday and see if I want to get rid of my Storm for this.
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A contact with Verizon told me that Pre-orders of the Tour may start shipping as early as Tomorrow. Take that for what it's worth, (a rumor)
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Old Jul 8, 09, 11:35 am   #35
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A contact with Verizon told me that Pre-orders of the Tour may start shipping as early as Tomorrow. Take that for what it's worth, (a rumor)
Possibly for corporate customers.
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Old Jul 8, 09, 5:45 pm   #36
 
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I'm going to be in line at store opening Sunday AM
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Old Jul 8, 09, 7:19 pm   #37
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Possibly for corporate customers.
I called today on that today, corporate has to wait as well. Things may change over the next few days. I have held for me on Sunday by my local rep.
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Old Jul 11, 09, 11:54 pm   #38
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Going to get mine tomm. Anyone else? Didnt get a chance to run down to the store to use it. My rep called me Fri saying they were in. Ill give you all a report tomm.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 7:17 am   #39
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So why go and buy the BB Tour when close to the same time frame VZN will have the HTC Ozone, a BB-like device with has wifi?

Why would one select a Tour over the Ozone?
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On my way to pick up a Tour. I choose this over the ozone mainly due to the operating system. Windows Mobile is not acceptable for me.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 10:09 am   #41
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So why go and buy the BB Tour when close to the same time frame VZN will have the HTC Ozone, a BB-like device with has wifi?

Why would one select a Tour over the Ozone?
For me, the ability to use it worldwide and the BB messenger, which allows me to message to other BB's sorta for free.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 10:17 am   #42
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But as many have pointed out in another thread, there is great utility to having wifi built into a cell phone, especially when using it overseas.

So again, why should I pay more for the Tour when the Ozone gives me that wifi capability?

The following was posted by Dubai Stu on the other thread about wifi in a cell phone:

"There is a link to an article over at dslreports.com about how Sprint is going to require all new smart phones (after the Tour) to have WiFi. This includes the Tour II do out early next year.

I find wifi very important. As smart phones get more media rich, we will start butting our head up against the 5 gig threshold. If you move your home and office internet usage to wifi, this will greatly reduce the burden.

Wifi also provides good backup coverage where you have poor cell coverage. Contrary to Verizon's advertising, there are many places that don't have good coverage around the U.S.

Wifi reduces your international data roaming bills (and possibly your voice roaming as well). In addition to this, international roaming is not perfect. Earlier this year, my wife couldn't get roaming coverage working for seven days with TMobile. What would have been a disaster became only a minor incident because she had wifi in the hotel room (courtesy of a Linksys portable router) and at the client site.

Besides Sprint and Verizon's bias against wifi, they have clearly had problems getting wifi into CDMA/GSM combination phones. With respect to the Storm, the Tour (compare it to the wifi enabled Curve 8900 and the Bold), and several other phones. If you travel internationally and want a global roaming plan, there are only a handful of non-Blackberry options. [But go look at the Apple forum at ATT's company run forum forum.wireless.att.com) where there is discussion of a little known corporate ("FAN") nearly worldwide unlimited iPhone plan]
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I'm going to look at The Tour, but I still feel kind of burned when I got the 8703e. I felt it was simply a dump of old technology, quickly replaced by better options from other carriers (Curve, Bold).

The Tour, to me is like the 8703e....the last of some old BB technology. The trackball (yet-to-be released models, such as the Onyx, show a trackpad), lack of Wi-Fi (which isn't a very big deal to me, but still), and the OS, which pre-installed is 4.7.1 (v5.0.XX is right around the corner).

I know technology changes by the day...heck, hour. But with the Storm 2 having Wi-Fi and other better BlackBerries around the corner, I'm a little skeptical.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 2:11 pm   #44
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I'm going to look at The Tour, but I still feel kind of burned when I got the 8703e. I felt it was simply a dump of old technology, quickly replaced by better options from other carriers (Curve, Bold).

The Tour, to me is like the 8703e....the last of some old BB technology. The trackball (yet-to-be released models, such as the Onyx, show a trackpad), lack of Wi-Fi (which isn't a very big deal to me, but still), and the OS, which pre-installed is 4.7.1 (v5.0.XX is right around the corner).

I know technology changes by the day...heck, hour. But with the Storm 2 having Wi-Fi and other better BlackBerries around the corner, I'm a little skeptical.
I hear ya. Still going to get the Tour and check it out. If Im not happy, Ill get the Storm II, but dont know if I will use the wi fi, so may wait for the Tour 2. Ill post in a few hrs. Im gonna head and get it now.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 3:47 pm   #45
 
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Really happy with my tour so far. Its much snappier than the Storm and the keyboard is just as nice as the Bold albeit a hair narrower. All in all, very pleased to replace my uk bold and us/rest of world Storm with one device, swapping my Vodafone sim in when I'm home in the UK.
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