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Old Nov 4, 2007, 10:10 am
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Us Mac users aren't that safe anymore

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/s...rojan_surfaces

So stay away from porn sites. Don't accept any "updates" to quicktime if you do visit porn sites.

On personal experience, most infected computers I've serviced in my days working at an ISP were user errors.

Come to think of it - I believe all were user error.

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Old Nov 4, 2007, 10:55 am
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Anyone who thinks Macs are immune from this sort of thing is under a serious delusion.

Less attractive to malware writers because of lower market share: yes. (As their market share grows, which it seems to be doing, they may become more attractive this way, but for the foreseeable future we're still talking single-digit percentages.)

Harder to crack because of the Unix underpinning of the OS: yes.

Immune: no. This just proves it.
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Old Nov 4, 2007, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Efrem
Anyone who thinks Macs are immune from this sort of thing is under a serious delusion.

Less attractive to malware writers because of lower market share: yes. (As their market share grows, which it seems to be doing, they may become more attractive this way, but for the foreseeable future we're still talking single-digit percentages.)

Harder to crack because of the Unix underpinning of the OS: yes.

Immune: no. This just proves it.
Precisely!

Mac's have never been immune just not attractive enough for the hackers to get in to. But just as you say - higher market share the attraction goes up.

So far I don't think there is a need to panic. A careful user will not do an update when visiting a website. I always surf to the software site and check there first.

Never click on attachments unless I know the sender and it is an attachment I've been waiting for. Anything else goes in the trash. The "better be safe than sorry" approach has stuck from my PC days.

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Old Nov 4, 2007, 12:30 pm
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This is just the latest item to hit the news so that people can say "Ha, you guys are in trouble". But it's still relatively minor compared to what any Windows machine faces every day.

Does this mean a Mac user should do nothing? No. People should always be prudent. But the sky isn't falling here. "Aren't that safe" is not really a reasonable description. Standard precautions protect you from this, as usual. The utterly clueless might be harmed, as usual.

And once again it is a company with a vested interest in selling security and antivirus software for the Mac that is publicizing it.
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Old Nov 4, 2007, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Emma65
http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/s...rojan_surfaces

So stay away from porn sites. Don't accept any "updates" to quicktime if you do visit porn sites.

On personal experience, most infected computers I've serviced in my days working at an ISP were user errors.

Come to think of it - I believe all were user error.

/E
This is a 'post' error and a total waste of bandwidth....FT is PG rated so why is porn referenced as support that Mac's aren't immune?

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Old Nov 4, 2007, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by dtsm
This is a 'post' error and a total waste of bandwidth....FT is PG rated so why is porn referenced as support that Mac's aren't immune?
Because the porn industry has consistently proven itself in the vanguard of technology? It's only a ghetto in your mind - trends developed their flow quickly to the mainstream especially with viruses!
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Old Nov 4, 2007, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by dtsm
This is a 'post' error and a total waste of bandwidth....FT is PG rated so why is porn referenced as support that Mac's aren't immune?
It's referenced because this trojan is being spread by a porn site. The user visits the site and is then asked to download a new codec for Quicktime so they can view the site's videos. They download the .dmg file provided, mount it, run the installer, enter their password and then (if they're an admin user) they get a trojan instead of the codec that was advertised.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=629

Unlike Windows though, this one certainly isn't going to leap out the browser at you. It requires a fair bit of active participation on the part of the user to get it installed.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by dtsm
This is a 'post' error and a total waste of bandwidth....FT is PG rated so why is porn referenced as support that Mac's aren't immune?

This is not a post error. Read the article linked and you will see why it was referenced.

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Old Nov 5, 2007, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by Emma65
This is not a post error. Read the article linked and you will see why it was referenced.

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I don't doubt the accuracy of the article cited. What other advice do you have for those who surf porn sites?

We're all ears.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by dtsm
This is a 'post' error and a total waste of bandwidth....FT is PG rated so why is porn referenced as support that Mac's aren't immune?
Not at all. The facts that McDonald's serves fast food, and that I sometimes go there, doesn't mean it's the only thing I eat.

Aside from the possibility that some of us may knowingly visit both FT and porn sites, one sometimes gets there by accident. A high-school senior, then in my household, once went to whitehouse.com (NSFW!) in the school library instead of whitehouse.gov. While this incident didn't result in any damage to the computer, that sort of thing happens for any number of reasons. One should be aware of all the risks besides going blind.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 7:36 am
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Unlike Windows though, this one certainly isn't going to leap out the browser at you. It requires a fair bit of active participation on the part of the user to get it installed.
Uh, most Windows viruses also require a fair bit of active participation to get it installed. Might be why I haven't been infected in many years.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by Efrem
Aside from the possibility that some of us may knowingly visit both FT and porn sites, one sometimes gets there by accident. A high-school senior, then in my household, once went to whitehouse.com (NSFW!) in the school library instead of whitehouse.gov. .
Again I totally agree, people often accidentally log onto or misled into porn sites.

However, how many that 'accidentally' arrive there will then actually download a dmg file ??? Anyone who uses a pc/WinXP and/or Mac OS who does so always runs risk of an infection (no pun intended)....that's always been the case, and certainly not new.

Anyway, i guess we have different opinion re whether this is useful or not...I'll remain silent after this post.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 10:09 am
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What other advice do you have for those who surf porn sites?
None what so ever. Feel free to surf the porn sites as much as you want.
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Old Nov 7, 2007, 12:43 pm
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http://www.theonion.com/content/node/69392
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Old Nov 7, 2007, 11:30 pm
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It doesn't have to be only porn sites... Some other sites like Torrents, warez, or another illegal downloading sites are also installing spywares on macs through the "quicktime plugin update".
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