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Old May 20, 2007, 12:29 pm
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Combining work and personal on a laptop

I have just started a new job with a 'real' company (as opposed to academia).

This company has a very strict security policy which says that basically nothing except work software or data can be added to their machines, and 'personal' machines don't get access to the mail server (except via webmail) or the VPN.

How do other frequent travelers deal with this? Do you carry 2 machines when you travel? If not, how do you deal with things like watching DVDs, listening to music or Audible books, manipulating photos or (for this forum) using KVS?

Thanks,

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Old May 20, 2007, 12:32 pm
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Just buy an extra laptop hard drive. might cost you like $150. Then you just put the work hd in when its work time and swap it out with the other when your done. thats what i do.
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Old May 20, 2007, 12:49 pm
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The hard drive suggestion is a good idea, or, if size is an issue, you can get memory sticks that you can wear around your neck that are pre-loaded with a linux distribution, complete with office software, an email client and a web browser.

Just boot the memory stick up for personal use, and use the hard drive for work.
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Old May 20, 2007, 3:09 pm
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I carry 2 laptops, because the personal one is a Mac.

I've used the secondary hard drive option as well, and it's a bit of a pain. If you are on the personal system you can't use the work system, and vice versa. My ADD is such that multitasking R us....

I'd recommend trying out the flash drive idea. The Linux distro is the slimmest solution, but if you aren't comfortable with that, take a look at this one that says you can run windoze on a flash drive: http://www.consumerelectronicsnet.co....jsp?id=136168
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Old May 20, 2007, 4:38 pm
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An external travel HD is a good idea. DVD's play without adding files. I like the idea of booting to another OS. You can even find - by searching around - an XP os that can be installed on a flash drive and booted. There are many applications that are portable, that don't add files or any entries to the registry.

About the only case that would be impossible is if the laptop was loaded with something like Pointsec. In which, you're extremely limited in your options to use the laptop. Also, some laptops installed with certain VPN software, might require that all Internet access be directed through the corporate gateway and only specific software could be run from the laptop.

Best to check with your IT people.
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Old May 20, 2007, 4:39 pm
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I leave my personal system at home and use remote desktop to keep up with things.

My company also has a policy about personal stuff on the company laptop; however, as long as you are not doing porn or malware, they don't give anyone any grief over a few programs.
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Old May 20, 2007, 4:48 pm
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I've run into that at my new job. I won't use one of the locked-down firm laptops -- they're too restricted, even for my work. I'll make do with Citrix and webmail and use my own laptop. However, I'm planning to have a nice heart-to-heart with our IP director and see if I can't convince him that I pose no risk to the firm's computer security by connecting directly to the exchange server.
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Old May 20, 2007, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaRebel

My company also has a policy about personal stuff on the company laptop; however, as long as you are not doing porn or malware, they don't give anyone any grief over a few programs.
Yeah, our official policy is like that too...but I have Firefox installed and various other little things. No one's cried foul yet.

The really dumb thing is that you can't run a file called "setup.exe". You can run a file called "Copy of setup.exe" however. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V.
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Old May 20, 2007, 7:51 pm
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Any suggestions on where to get Linux on a flash drive or do you just make an image yourself? Have you tried using this in public computers as well? Thanks.
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Old May 20, 2007, 8:14 pm
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Pendrivelinux.com has instructions to do it yourself. There are also custom Linux PC makers who will pre-do one at a very cheap price (this place for example).

To the OP - I would second the earlier suggestion of a remote access program. I have some mobile apps that let me get to personal email, web, etc on my phone - but use LogMeIn if I need to get to my full home PC.
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Old May 20, 2007, 11:06 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions. I will have a talk with the IT people. If that doesn't work I will try the pen drive or just buy a personal laptop and accept that it will be limited.

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Old May 21, 2007, 6:38 am
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I liked in that would too, until I broke down and got a Macbook and started carrying 2 laptops. Its a backbreaker but for me (especially currently), its worth it.

Previously, I tried everything. When I first started with my current company they were using Windows 2000...so I made a new partition, installed XP and bound it to my own domain... no real problems, I called the helpdesk and got the installer for the VPN package... I just had to authenticate to email since it wasn't getting it from NTLM... Then I realized that created more problems than it was worth. After that I tried everything from dual booting to VMware with either windows or Linux.... my last iteration was to dual boot b/c I was not 100% convinced that the company wasn't taking periodic screen shots.

Another solution is simply to use Remote Desktop. If you have a machine running XP pro at home and have a way to get secure access back to that machine then you can use Remote Desktop and actually use your home computer just like you were in front of it. That, with a good webmail for personal use might just do the trick.


Bottom line, now I have to mess with 2 computers in security, but I'm so much happier.
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Old May 21, 2007, 9:28 am
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Sony used to have a nice laptop where you could replace the HDD with another one in only 10 seconds without any tools. I loved it. This is also possible on my Thinkpad T42 and T40 if you dont use the bottom securing screw. You need an extra caddy for all of these.

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Old May 22, 2007, 4:02 pm
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Do the new Linux on a USB drives work with new Intel based Macs? Has anyone tried this? Thanks.
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Old May 22, 2007, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaRebel
I leave my personal system at home and use remote desktop to keep up with things.
I do this, too, only the other way around - I travel with a personal laptop and use remote desktop to work on my company computer, which I leave at my desk. I can also get to my corporate email via VPN on my personal laptop.
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