Motorola's new combo WiFi/GSM phone is 5GHz!
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Motorola's new combo WiFi/GSM phone is 5GHz!
See http://www.vonmag.com/webexclusives/...e_Surprise.htm
This is pretty good news to me. I have 5Ghz (802.11a) both at home and work so I'd love to get my hands on one of these things. The only problem is that most hotspots are 2.4Ghz, but that is slowly changing. Maybe this new phone will help speed the change. In any case you have GSM and GPRS to fall back on.
If anyone at Motorola (or anywhere else) can help me get my hands on this thing, I will test the heck out of it!
This is pretty good news to me. I have 5Ghz (802.11a) both at home and work so I'd love to get my hands on one of these things. The only problem is that most hotspots are 2.4Ghz, but that is slowly changing. Maybe this new phone will help speed the change. In any case you have GSM and GPRS to fall back on.
If anyone at Motorola (or anywhere else) can help me get my hands on this thing, I will test the heck out of it!
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Originally Posted by stimpy
The only problem is that most hotspots are 2.4Ghz, but that is slowly changing. Maybe this new phone will help speed the change.
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Originally Posted by Doppy
But aren't the new protocols (802.11b/g) 2.4GHz? Is there a change to 5GHz coming?
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Originally Posted by stimpy
people are swinging back to 802.11A.
A quick search at a popular web site shows products available for A/B/G at 43/192/142, and every A product is B or G capable also.
Or is Motorola going to build a nationwide 5GHz cellular network?
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Originally Posted by stimpy
Now due to the crowded 2.4GHz spectrum, people are swinging back to 802.11A.
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Originally Posted by MrFurious
I can't think of a single person who's running 802.11a.
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Originally Posted by CPRich
Really? That's news to me. Any data points on that?
A quick search at a popular web site shows products available for A/B/G at 43/192/142, and every A product is B or G capable also.
Or is Motorola going to build a nationwide 5GHz cellular network?
A quick search at a popular web site shows products available for A/B/G at 43/192/142, and every A product is B or G capable also.
Or is Motorola going to build a nationwide 5GHz cellular network?
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Originally Posted by ScottC
Same here, and I a make my dough in that industry. I don't know a single client running a .11a setup, or ANYONE that has moved from b/g to a.
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Originally Posted by MrFurious
I can't think of a single person who's running 802.11a.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
Actually you don't have to move to .11a. Most chips nowadays support all three technologies. So you can deploy all three and allow the client devices to migrate. That is happening in hotpots already. Many support all three. Take a PCMCIA card like a Netgear WAG511 which is A/B/G. It will always automatically choose the .11a access point over the others if all things are equal. So when we deploy such hotspots, the operators are surprised to see so many people accessing their .11a AP's. In fact the people probably do not even know they are using .11A.
Netgear doesn't even produce an 802.11a product anymore. All 802.11a products in their line are discontinued, and leftovers at vendors are all there is. Linksys makes TWO ABG wireless cards and 2 ABG routers, the rest of their assortment DOES NOT support 802.11a. So the claim that most chipsets support it is most certainly not correct.
I have NEVER, I repeat NEVER ran accross an 802.11a capable hotspot.
Face it, 802.11a is DEAD. Technologies like MIMO and WiMax are taking over.
The only reason Motorola is releasing this phone is because 802.11a makes some sense for certain corporate locations. Only high-end equipment still offers 11a coverage. And 802.11a is the best solution for VOIP.
But when walking around with your 802.11a phone, don't expect to ever find any public hotspots it'll work on...
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Originally Posted by stimpy
Actually you don't have to move to .11a. Most chips nowadays support all three technologies. So you can deploy all three and allow the client devices to migrate. That is happening in hotpots already. Many support all three. Take a PCMCIA card like a Netgear WAG511 which is A/B/G. It will always automatically choose the .11a access point over the others if all things are equal. So when we deploy such hotspots, the operators are surprised to see so many people accessing their .11a AP's. In fact the people probably do not even know they are using .11A.
Linksys uses a lot of Broadcom chipsets that are 802.11a CAPABLE, but only include a 2.4GHz transceiver in the product, rendering the entire 802.11a stack useless. Considering Broadcom delivers chips to many of the major vendors I am sure the same goes for most cards.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
As I said here and in another thread, I use .11a at home. Why? Because in my apartment building and probably the other buildings near me, there are more than 7 access points running. .11b/g simply won't work very well in such an environment. It's how CSMA/CA works. Add on 2.4GHz cordless phones and performance just sucks. So I swapped my 11g AP for an 11a AP and viola! Instant high speed performance. Once the rest of the market understands this, a whole lot more people will switch.
5.8 ghz and walls/floors don't mix.