iP8 + iWatch 3
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Yes, similar to what I suspected up in post #50. Still surprised they let it happen. That should have been in the "things to check just before going on stage" checklist.
AppleCare+ for the 8, 7 and 6s are all $129.
The 8Plus is $149, X is $199.
Only the SE is cheaper at $99.
The 8Plus is $149, X is $199.
Only the SE is cheaper at $99.
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Yes, similar to what I suspected up in post #50. Still surprised they let it happen. That should have been in the "things to check just before going on stage" checklist.
AppleCare+ for the 8, 7 and 6s are all $129.
The 8Plus is $149, X is $199.
Only the SE is cheaper at $99.
AppleCare+ for the 8, 7 and 6s are all $129.
The 8Plus is $149, X is $199.
Only the SE is cheaper at $99.
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But $129 to $129 isn't a range - the older 7 and 6s are the same as the new 8.
6s Plus and 7Plus are the same as the 8Plus - $149.
Cost appears to be related to screen size, not phone age.
6s Plus and 7Plus are the same as the 8Plus - $149.
Cost appears to be related to screen size, not phone age.
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Interesting note for AppleWatch users - it appears the new cellular functionality is going to require a perpetual cost to use.
When it comes to the new Apple Watch Series 3, Apple (AAPL - Get Report) isn't the only one set to pocket some serious lunch money. As the watch will be able to connect directly to cellular without the need to carry that pesky iPhone around, major networks have the opportunity to charge extra fees to get your watch on the grid.
AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon will charge $10 per month for each Apple Watch.
AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon will charge $10 per month for each Apple Watch.
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Interesting note for AppleWatch users - it appears the new cellular functionality is going to require a perpetual cost to use.
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That's really much cheaper than I thought. I may get the Bluetooth only version still but I will likely get one. And the $10 cost per month will make me reconsider the cellular version, however. It will likely depend how they work together with the phone, i.e. will the the watch and the phone have the same number.
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It'll be interesting to see how this will work in the UK because as I understand it you can't have two devices with the same number. EE are the exclusive carrier in the UK and so they presumably must have come up with a solution. What put me off is the fact that you still have to have an iPhone and the fact you have to use EE.
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"And AppleCare+ (or something else sort of like it) will cost a good deal less for the cheaper phones than for say the 8, 8Plus or X."
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It'll be interesting to see how this will work in the UK because as I understand it you can't have two devices with the same number. EE are the exclusive carrier in the UK and so they presumably must have come up with a solution. What put me off is the fact that you still have to have an iPhone and the fact you have to use EE.
So you can do iMessage and maybe FaceTime audio calls but not regular voice and SMS?
But think of the times you would need mobile connectivity when you leave the house with just the Watch but not your iPhone.
Maybe you go for a run or a hike and there are apps. to log your activity. But do those apps. need connections? I guess if you want to listen to Spotify or some other streaming service, that's what you're using the data for.
I don't own a Watch, though I may at some point. But if I wanted to go for a run and I needed connectivity, I'd just get an arm band for my iPhone or carry it in hand, rather than pay to connect my Watch.
Now, if the Watch with the connection can let you make phone calls and send SMS (as well as iMessage), then it really would be a self-contained device. In that case, Apple might as well market it to people who don't own iPhones.
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I would guess the Watch connectivity is limited to just data?
So you can do iMessage and maybe FaceTime audio calls but not regular voice and SMS?
But think of the times you would need mobile connectivity when you leave the house with just the Watch but not your iPhone.
Maybe you go for a run or a hike and there are apps. to log your activity. But do those apps. need connections? I guess if you want to listen to Spotify or some other streaming service, that's what you're using the data for.
I don't own a Watch, though I may at some point. But if I wanted to go for a run and I needed connectivity, I'd just get an arm band for my iPhone or carry it in hand, rather than pay to connect my Watch.
Now, if the Watch with the connection can let you make phone calls and send SMS (as well as iMessage), then it really would be a self-contained device. In that case, Apple might as well market it to people who don't own iPhones.
So you can do iMessage and maybe FaceTime audio calls but not regular voice and SMS?
But think of the times you would need mobile connectivity when you leave the house with just the Watch but not your iPhone.
Maybe you go for a run or a hike and there are apps. to log your activity. But do those apps. need connections? I guess if you want to listen to Spotify or some other streaming service, that's what you're using the data for.
I don't own a Watch, though I may at some point. But if I wanted to go for a run and I needed connectivity, I'd just get an arm band for my iPhone or carry it in hand, rather than pay to connect my Watch.
Now, if the Watch with the connection can let you make phone calls and send SMS (as well as iMessage), then it really would be a self-contained device. In that case, Apple might as well market it to people who don't own iPhones.
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I would guess the Watch connectivity is limited to just data?
So you can do iMessage and maybe FaceTime audio calls but not regular voice and SMS?
But think of the times you would need mobile connectivity when you leave the house with just the Watch but not your iPhone.
Maybe you go for a run or a hike and there are apps. to log your activity. But do those apps. need connections? I guess if you want to listen to Spotify or some other streaming service, that's what you're using the data for.
I don't own a Watch, though I may at some point. But if I wanted to go for a run and I needed connectivity, I'd just get an arm band for my iPhone or carry it in hand, rather than pay to connect my Watch.
Now, if the Watch with the connection can let you make phone calls and send SMS (as well as iMessage), then it really would be a self-contained device. In that case, Apple might as well market it to people who don't own iPhones.
So you can do iMessage and maybe FaceTime audio calls but not regular voice and SMS?
But think of the times you would need mobile connectivity when you leave the house with just the Watch but not your iPhone.
Maybe you go for a run or a hike and there are apps. to log your activity. But do those apps. need connections? I guess if you want to listen to Spotify or some other streaming service, that's what you're using the data for.
I don't own a Watch, though I may at some point. But if I wanted to go for a run and I needed connectivity, I'd just get an arm band for my iPhone or carry it in hand, rather than pay to connect my Watch.
Now, if the Watch with the connection can let you make phone calls and send SMS (as well as iMessage), then it really would be a self-contained device. In that case, Apple might as well market it to people who don't own iPhones.
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$129 AppleCare+ = Screen size: 4.7, 4.7, 4.7, 4.7, 4.7, 4.7 Cost 449, 549, 549, 649, 699, 849
$149 AppleCare+ = Screen size: 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, 5.5 Cost 549, 649, 669, 749, 769, 799, 949
I'm gonna stick with screen size correlation. Cheap screen replacement is basically the main benefit, and I suspect largest cost to Apple, of service with AppleCare+. Bigger screen, higher cost to replace, higher insurance cost.
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https://www.apple.com/watch/cellular/
I think that checks off about everything on your list
This was the live demo - she is having a phone coversation with just her watch.
Apple Watch Series 3 with cellular lets you make a call, send a text, and stream music — even when you leave your phone behind
This was the live demo - she is having a phone coversation with just her watch.
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