New MacBook Pros (2016)
Oct 28, 2016, 11:40 am
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The proper education prices are only available after connecting via specific websites.
E.G. MacBook Pro 13"
Apple Store (FR*) 1,699 1,999 2,1999 (€)
Apple Edu Store (FR) 1,597 1,879 2,067 (€) (6% discount)
Apple On Campus (FR) 1,495 1,759 1,935 (€) (12% discount)
*I used Apple Store FR as a friend of mine can only connect to the French AOC. It should however be sufficiently clear that Apple Edu Store is not the same as the AOC.
E.G. MacBook Pro 13"
Apple Store (FR*) 1,699 1,999 2,1999 (€)
Apple Edu Store (FR) 1,597 1,879 2,067 (€) (6% discount)
Apple On Campus (FR) 1,495 1,759 1,935 (€) (12% discount)
*I used Apple Store FR as a friend of mine can only connect to the French AOC. It should however be sufficiently clear that Apple Edu Store is not the same as the AOC.
Oct 28, 2016, 11:46 am
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MagSafe, it was the charging cable that they had that connected to the laptops via magnets. This is different than the lightning cable that they ship with an iPhone. Lightning cables are basically held together with residue and hope. The big advantage is the connection had too much stress on it, it would pop off the computer saving the laptop. The golfer has had apples for years, and over the past 10 years he's had to replace the charger once. (My iPhone seems to eat them though.)
Oct 28, 2016, 12:00 pm
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Oct 28, 2016, 12:12 pm
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Likely I will buy an apple refurbished 2015 model fully loaded. As the actual performance specs are almost the same and I don't have a downgraded GPU, no trackbar and the ports I need/want.
This has the makings for a BIG flop. I could see Apple releasing a MBP "S" or something. That is actually a professional level laptop...
Oct 28, 2016, 12:18 pm
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This year my brick just 'died'. End of cable was fine but I am careful with it.
Likely I will buy an apple refurbished 2015 model fully loaded. As the actual performance specs are almost the same and I don't have a downgraded GPU, no trackbar and the ports I need/want.
This has the makings for a BIG flop. I could see Apple releasing a MBP "S" or something. That is actually a professional level laptop...
Likely I will buy an apple refurbished 2015 model fully loaded. As the actual performance specs are almost the same and I don't have a downgraded GPU, no trackbar and the ports I need/want.
This has the makings for a BIG flop. I could see Apple releasing a MBP "S" or something. That is actually a professional level laptop...
Oct 28, 2016, 12:50 pm
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And in the case of modems, readily available in ever-small external USB packages.
Ditto the optical drives; Apple was ahead of the game in realizing that even where people was using them at all, it was infrequent enough that USB (or Firewire) was OK for the vast majority of people.
That's an inconvenience, although it's pretty darn easy to use a very cheap USB one. They did kind of jump the gun on going all USB-C, but the adapters are passive and pretty cheap, and by doing so all at once it does kind of force the market to catch up.
Especially on a machine that's all glued together.
My Dell had no 32GB RAM option when I bought it in April. OTOH, like any number of similar machines, the CPU supported it, and the 3rd party RAM works perfectly.
Apple's choice to go soldered (and later all glued together) ogether for the MBP 15" (starting with the first retina model) is disappointing; losing the ability to repair and upgrade machines is sort of understandable on ultraportables, but on high end professional machines it's stupid.
Ditto the optical drives; Apple was ahead of the game in realizing that even where people was using them at all, it was infrequent enough that USB (or Firewire) was OK for the vast majority of people.
There was no real need to pull the SD reader, digital cameras have been using these, and will probably continue for a very long time.
Especially on a machine that's all glued together.
My Dell had no 32GB RAM option when I bought it in April. OTOH, like any number of similar machines, the CPU supported it, and the 3rd party RAM works perfectly.
Apple's choice to go soldered (and later all glued together) ogether for the MBP 15" (starting with the first retina model) is disappointing; losing the ability to repair and upgrade machines is sort of understandable on ultraportables, but on high end professional machines it's stupid.
Oct 28, 2016, 1:24 pm
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Apple's choice to go soldered (and later all glued together) ogether for the MBP 15" (starting with the first retina model) is disappointing; losing the ability to repair and upgrade machines is sort of understandable on ultraportables, but on high end professional machines it's stupid.
Oct 28, 2016, 1:27 pm
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Speaking of which, Apple appears to have soldered the SSD as well with this generation, meaning aftermarket upgrades won't even be possible now. In the past one could get an OWC SSD or possibly an Apple SSD from eBay if one needed more space later on for the rMBPs.
Oct 28, 2016, 2:07 pm
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I can't find these on Amazon. Can you post the ASIN maybe?
Oct 28, 2016, 4:32 pm
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Bad enough to have phones without a removable SD card for photos...
Oct 28, 2016, 5:35 pm
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Bad enough to have phones without a removable SD card for photos...
Oct 28, 2016, 5:49 pm
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And in the case of modems, readily available in ever-small external USB packages.
Ditto the optical drives; Apple was ahead of the game in realizing that even where people was using them at all, it was infrequent enough that USB (or Firewire) was OK for the vast majority of people.
That's an inconvenience, although it's pretty darn easy to use a very cheap USB one. They did kind of jump the gun on going all USB-C, but the adapters are passive and pretty cheap, and by doing so all at once it does kind of force the market to catch up.
Especially on a machine that's all glued together.
My Dell had no 32GB RAM option when I bought it in April. OTOH, like any number of similar machines, the CPU supported it, and the 3rd party RAM works perfectly.
Apple's choice to go soldered (and later all glued together) ogether for the MBP 15" (starting with the first retina model) is disappointing; losing the ability to repair and upgrade machines is sort of understandable on ultraportables, but on high end professional machines it's stupid.
Ditto the optical drives; Apple was ahead of the game in realizing that even where people was using them at all, it was infrequent enough that USB (or Firewire) was OK for the vast majority of people.
That's an inconvenience, although it's pretty darn easy to use a very cheap USB one. They did kind of jump the gun on going all USB-C, but the adapters are passive and pretty cheap, and by doing so all at once it does kind of force the market to catch up.
Especially on a machine that's all glued together.
My Dell had no 32GB RAM option when I bought it in April. OTOH, like any number of similar machines, the CPU supported it, and the 3rd party RAM works perfectly.
Apple's choice to go soldered (and later all glued together) ogether for the MBP 15" (starting with the first retina model) is disappointing; losing the ability to repair and upgrade machines is sort of understandable on ultraportables, but on high end professional machines it's stupid.
It's not sleek and engineered if you have to run an adapter of some type into every single port on the computer. I'll have less adapters into my Mid 2012 to run the same stuff I use when on location as a photographer.
What they have made is the MacBook Pro Trendy Edition. This is for kids spending their parent's money going to college. The hardware is mediocre for 2016 and the updates don't do anything for a professional using it. They have only made it LESS usable for an actual professional.
As said originally this has been the laptop of choice for most working creative professionals. This new one is a downgrade plain and simple. None of my creative professional friends has given this a hint of a positive 'preview'.
Oct 28, 2016, 5:53 pm
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Having scheduled automatic backups is important, but if you spend any non-trivial amount of time on the road, you either need cloud backups (expensive, and eat up a lot of bandwidth if you're a heavy user) or to have a way to get data off.
That's one thing where MacOS was well ahead of Windows.
Both Time Machine and Windows File History in Windows 10 are pretty good at making automatic, incremental backups. The difference is that Time Machine has been around since what, like Leopard in 2007 or something like that, and Windows only got the current File History feature in Windows 8 in 2012 (and it didn't work nearly as well on 8 or 8.1)
The full-machine backup feature on XP and 7 was terrible. Getting useful backups pretty much required a third party tool...
That's one thing where MacOS was well ahead of Windows.
Both Time Machine and Windows File History in Windows 10 are pretty good at making automatic, incremental backups. The difference is that Time Machine has been around since what, like Leopard in 2007 or something like that, and Windows only got the current File History feature in Windows 8 in 2012 (and it didn't work nearly as well on 8 or 8.1)
The full-machine backup feature on XP and 7 was terrible. Getting useful backups pretty much required a third party tool...
Oct 28, 2016, 6:06 pm
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Actually, looks like the SSD on the new MBPs is removable after all?
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/28/...removable-ssd/
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/28/...removable-ssd/