Downgrade from Windows 10
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I've presently got Windows 8 but I've got it with Classic Shell...which makes it workable (I just smack the start button once or twice at startup to get a more-or-less conventional desktop-plus-start menu). Honestly, I'll probably be making a migration to Linux in the next year or two...Microsoft has totally lost me over the SaaS model and:
(1) I don't trust them to not do something like that with Windows 10 (let alone "Windows"); and
(2) The generalized shenanigans over this haven't helped.
Serious question: Microsoft may not be supporting with drivers and so on, but is there anything stopping device makers from supporting drivers (esp. if Windows 10 flatlines in the low-to-mid teens in terms of market share)?
(1) I don't trust them to not do something like that with Windows 10 (let alone "Windows"); and
(2) The generalized shenanigans over this haven't helped.
Serious question: Microsoft may not be supporting with drivers and so on, but is there anything stopping device makers from supporting drivers (esp. if Windows 10 flatlines in the low-to-mid teens in terms of market share)?
I'm running Windows 10 with no need for Classic Shell at all. You can choose to run it in desktop mode; you can use the Quick Launch toolbar just like I do; and if you don't like to see tiles when you click on the Start button, you can delete them all.
I think you're on the weakest solution right now: Windows 8. You should upgrade to 10, or 8.1, or downgrade to 7; but Windows 8 itself is kind of the Windows ME of the 2010s.
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Ideally, you would install the migration tool on both computers and push a button. After an hour or two, the new computer would have all the same files in the same locations, the desktops would be identical, and all your installed software would work on the new computer exactly as it did on the old.
This is not really possible in the Windows world, but a really good migration tool would get you very close.
This is not really possible in the Windows world, but a really good migration tool would get you very close.
Besides, I have all of my files very organized, so the migration goes pretty quickly.
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I've always preferred to do migration manually. It's very time-consuming to manually move files and re-install applications, but I'm a bit of a control freak, and I like knowing exactly what's going where and why on my computer.
Besides, I have all of my files very organized, so the migration goes pretty quickly.
Besides, I have all of my files very organized, so the migration goes pretty quickly.
Made my last two upgrades easy-peasy -- just pop the drive out of the old one, pop in into the new one, and run a batch file that resets the permissions.
Would be even easier if I ever got around to setting up a domain controller, so that I could just keep one set of permissions associated with a domain account.
Sadly my next machine looks like it will only have space for one SSD.
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I've started using two SSDs in my laptop -- one for OS+Programs, one for documents/pictures (and some programs, like my Steam library and certain other games, that don't need a reinstall program run.)
Made my last two upgrades easy-peasy -- just pop the drive out of the old one, pop in into the new one, and run a batch file that resets the permissions.
Would be even easier if I ever got around to setting up a domain controller, so that I could just keep one set of permissions associated with a domain account.
Sadly my next machine looks like it will only have space for one SSD.
Made my last two upgrades easy-peasy -- just pop the drive out of the old one, pop in into the new one, and run a batch file that resets the permissions.
Would be even easier if I ever got around to setting up a domain controller, so that I could just keep one set of permissions associated with a domain account.
Sadly my next machine looks like it will only have space for one SSD.
But if you have only have one physical drive, you can partition it into separate logical drives and get mpst of the same benefits.
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Yes, I used to do it that way, and will probably need to on my next machine (the cost of a 2TB SSD is not going to be fun!)
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Seen them down to about $570 recently, so it's making progress. Still pricey, but the 1TB ones are down to the point where I'm kinda tempted to replace the secondary drive in my laptop with one.
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For the 2TB ones, $570 is a nice little drop from around $650 which is what I am seeing on Amazon/Neweggg. Sadly, seems to purely be a Samsung size -- I prefer Crucial, of the current generation of drives, but going down from 2X 1TB (not that I really need that, but I do need about 1.5TB) to 1x 1TB isn't in the cards.
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any reason not to move from W7?
I've been using win 7 for ever, actually uninstalled w8 on this laptop when I got it 3 years ago to put w7 pro on it, as I was/am familiar with w7 and didn't want to learn anything new (and had heard only bad things).
Now that w10 has been out for 6 months, is there any reason why I shouldn't make the move?
Now that w10 has been out for 6 months, is there any reason why I shouldn't make the move?
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So that's me sticking to W7, and another reason why I'm not going to buy Samsung again....
How can I remove the 2GB+ of win10 install files sitting on my system??
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hmm - tried to install today, and got a message that Samsung Easy Settings is incompatible and needs to be uninstalled. Did some searching and found various reports that this feature (which basically controls the function of all the Fn keys, including screen/key backlighting brightness, volume and wifi/bluetooth) is not supported under W10, and that Samsung aren't going to update it. It's a three year old laptop, cutting edge when I bought it.
So that's me sticking to W7, and another reason why I'm not going to buy Samsung again....
So that's me sticking to W7, and another reason why I'm not going to buy Samsung again....
http://the1ent.blogspot.com/2014/10/...windows-8.html
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How can I remove the 2GB+ of win10 install files sitting on my system??
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I still tend to subscribe to an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. There's just not enough of an upside to really make it worth upgrading a laptop that's working perfectly fine on windows 7 that's a couple of years old already. (I would do the upgrade from a machine running windows 8 though.)
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Maybe OT but I have a lifetime experience of PCs and Microsoft OS and am pretty good technically.
The things MS has done since version 8 to Windows with the user interface and built-in monetizing applications have really turned me off.
Last month I succumbed to a new iMac, thinking at least much of the stuff I need Windows for I could probably find Mac applications to replace. To my surprise, I managed to replace every application and import data/documents with a Mac substitute (often the same software written for Mac). Now I have my screaming, home built desktop with 8 processors and 32GB of memory sitting idle, and I am not disappointed at that. I never thought I would, or could, do this, but I'm afraid MS has probably lost me for good.
YMMV but Mary if you had your time again, and I saw this thread earlier, I would have recommended OSX as an alternate platform.
The things MS has done since version 8 to Windows with the user interface and built-in monetizing applications have really turned me off.
Last month I succumbed to a new iMac, thinking at least much of the stuff I need Windows for I could probably find Mac applications to replace. To my surprise, I managed to replace every application and import data/documents with a Mac substitute (often the same software written for Mac). Now I have my screaming, home built desktop with 8 processors and 32GB of memory sitting idle, and I am not disappointed at that. I never thought I would, or could, do this, but I'm afraid MS has probably lost me for good.
YMMV but Mary if you had your time again, and I saw this thread earlier, I would have recommended OSX as an alternate platform.
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